Sneakylong There were ~ 800 law enforcement people at the parade and still people weren’t safe from gun violence.

Law enforcement isn't really designed as crime prevention. 800 to protect 1 million? Nah, not happening. Lots of children were shot today. I think current count is one dead and 21 hospitalized, some in critical condition.

      Rickochet That does not include the 100 vacancies that were canceled by the defunding police administration.

      What the hell are you talking about - "defunding police administration"? I'd like to see you support that statement. Any of those progressive liberals suggesting that police departments should be de-funded are fucking idiots!

        professor Law enforcement isn't really designed as crime prevention

        In these situations that’s point (visibility). Law enforcement is visible and is intended to dissuade criminal behavior. We don’t know the details yet.

        But my guess is law enforcement was there rather quickly, hence the quick apprehension. And I’ll bet the shooters had some sort of gun that could fire rapidly.

        Also reports are this was some sort of argument that turned to gunfire. If that’s the case they sucked at aiming. They missed shooting each other, but hit two dozen innocent people.

        Again, all speculation. But it’ll be interesting to hear what actually took place here.

            propman the talk and actual defunding of police depts

            And you too! Go ahead support that statement. Because it's not happening. Why do you folks feel the need to blow smoke without doing your homework. Just make shit up...

                Sneakylong Arguments that obfuscate the real issue aren’t helpful.

                Oh, do you mean dumbass comments - those that are just political talking-point bullshit like, "how criminals avoid jail time". LMAO You mean the guy that used to be in the White House?

                    professor relax prof! There was a shitload of defunding talk after the Floyd mess. Or don't you remember?

                        Sneakylong And I’ll bet the shooters had some sort of gun that could fire rapidly.

                        Yup! Already heard a witnessed interviewed, "it looked like a machine gun". Also, two civilians tackled, disarmed and subdued one of the shooters before police officers arrived.

                          propman There was a shitload of defunding talk after the Floyd mess. Or don't you remember?

                          No, I'm not relaxing. How 'bout you think before you type. I already spoke to that stupidity. It was just bullshit reactivity. But it sure as shit didn't happen!

                          propman and actual defunding of police depts

                          Try not to make shit up.

                              professor maybe have a conversation with a cop about how criminals get back on the streets too quickly. It's a fact, not political.

                                  Weirfan Water Hazard

                                  Yeah, do that! Move this shit to places where people won't see it. We don't want our sensibilities offended and clearly folks have little desire to be informed.
                                  FFS this Super Bowl thread should have been moved to The Water Hazard when the grumpy old men started feeding into their hateful Taylor Swift's a "ho" bullshit.

                                      propman too bad the ones who are doing these shootings haven't been able to get the help they need. Be really nice to know what exactly makes a mass shooting...

                                        I see the dumb fuckin' Democrat, circle jerkers, dick head club has arrived. Fuckin' polluting every fuckin' thing they touch. If it wasn't for your liberal Democrat cities with strict gun laws, we would be anywhere near the top, you dumb mutherfuckers!!!

                                          propman maybe have a conversation with a cop about how criminals get back on the streets too quickly. It's a fact, not political.

                                          Is this little snippet of your knowledge before or after defunding the police? I've got friends who are police officers and detectives. One won't typically just throw out blanket statements like yours without a level of insight into the complexity of the situation. Maybe I have some? Why do we have prison over-crowding? Why do we have professional prisons? What goes on in the corrections industry? What did the "war on drugs" do to people of color being incarcerated for status offenses? What products are produced, for profit in our prison industries? Who gets the money?

                                              propman professor what you don't believe in the Swift conspiracy??

                                              Not today. Maybe tomorrow after I resolve my own "ho"-like behavior when I was a young man. LOL

                                                professor my "snippet" applied before, during and after defunding talk.
                                                The overcrowding of prisons is just more reason why criminals walk early.

                                                    propman
                                                    It was just that - talk. And, those stupid loud voices on the far left were simply amplified to the level of daily doses of Hype by our shitty media outlets - all of them, in some way shape or form. Still, some are better than others.
                                                    There's never been a de-funding!

                                                      propman The overcrowding of prisons is just more reason why criminals walk early.

                                                      Why does the United States incarcerate more people than any other nation by a huge margin? That's the problem. You're talking about a symptom. Then again, have you ever done any research on prison reform?

                                                      Police officers most dread dealing with adolescents (especially those with guns) and domestic disturbances. Their top two!
                                                      I spent over 40 years in the juvenile justice system and mental health. I've got a little bit of knowledge and experience.