New SMT Hollow Body Irons

Sneakylong I have only hit the KE4 Max and concur with what he says about them...I personally do not like the hollow body irons, at all, the ones I've played feel terrible on off center hits....and I see no performance advantage to them vs. a traditional cavity back. If he thinks the goo filled stuff he's reviewing is on spec from Costco, Giga Golf, Golfworks, Takomo, etc. he is sorely mistaken. As someone who plays 150+ rounds per year a ~ 8 mo. season, I can say without a doubt that 9 holes is not enough, not even close to get a sense of a product. In that respect it's not a helpful review. He mishit many of his shots and had a poor ball striking round, that I can identify with. Being a dew sweeper, the ball has a tendency to squirt and jump a little with less spin.....and his description/sense of distance is WAY off...."18 yards" short on the par 3 that he hit the intentional fade and he takes 7-8 steps to get on the green. He's not accurate in what he says! I've seen it multiple times when he's describing distance on and off the green. Count the steps when he describes how far away he is and it's WAY off!

Sneakylong Look at Scottie Scheffler’s footwork. Hows that look on video? If you knew nothing of him would you criticize his swing because of his weird footwork?

No, because I know what to look for objectively in a fundamentally sound swing, which all the players you mentioned have.

SMT In a normal round, I may only hit 1 iron out of the bag, besides a wedge(ok, so it's an iron). But when I put a new set of irons in the bag, I will make sure I hit a few of them, even if it costs me. The vid man was only concerned with a score, if he was not utilizing all the irons during a 'review'. I've only seen a couple of these fellas that will do a 'proper' vid review. This fella is not one of them, and I have watched a few of his. He's too f'n nervous/hurries, to start with!!

I was also amused when he told of the shafts he chose, TT Score LT. "Value & Quality". 2 things I've yet to see in TT steel shafts.

jmo's, of course

scotts33 Seniors in general don't use as many irons as longer clubs. Always wonder why most seniors don't go to every other iron or 6 deg. to 8 deg. loft gaps and 2 wedges.

I'm there! . Driver 12, 4h 24, 6h 30, 8h 36, 9i 44, 50, 56. Works perfectly with my old bones swing.

pellmell No, because I know what to look for objectively in a fundamentally sound swing, which all the players you mentioned have.

Was Miller Barbers swing fundamentally sound? It’s how you arrive at impact. How you get there is irrelevant. Every swing has idiosyncracies.

Here’s what I look for. Is there downswing on plane. Meaning is it below their shoulder and ideally close to the same plane as their trail arm. Don’t care where their head is or where their feet and shoulders are pointed. Not interested in lag, forward shaft lean etc..

Most hackers are too steep. The shaft is too vertical coming down. Harry Vardon said he felt like he was swinging down towards his right heel. Ben Hogan told Gary Players it was impossible to swing too flat.

Then Nicklaus comes along and the upright swing is in vogue.

Also, many ‘good’ golf swings have a hand path over the backswing path, but the shaft remains in an area that would be considered on plane.

BTW Gabe of Let’s Play Thru is what is considered on plane coming into impact. And impact is all that matters. There is no such thing as a fundamentally sound swing.

Bob Brue hits good shots in all kinds of contorted positions. He dispels many of the so called fundamentals.

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