Spuzz Assuming that the "names" on that the banned list were intending to play, how does banning them help the Champions Tour, which is crying for "names" to spice up that tour?
The answer is, obviously, it does not help.

Ain't that the truth, the only time I bothered to watch a CT event was when Phil played in a couple when he turned 50. You talk about a Tour of nobodies? The big names make too much money now to need to play on the CT

    Par4QC Keeping in mind, the players there really do not much like Americans. It's why you never see some of them come over. They have some very big names/multiple winners, that won't cross the ocean, even for the money here. I think that will play into any decisions as to letting these guys join up.

    I really doubt dislike for Americans is why they're not coming over. Name me one DP Tour player who could move the needle that isn't playing here already. The ones who don't probably don't want to uproot their families. And may feel they can't contend.

    DP World Tour Race to Dubai (06.06.2022)
    #
    NAME
    NATIONALITY
    POINTS
    TOURNAMENTS
    1.
    McIlroy Rory
    Northern Ireland
    1979,1
    4
    2.
    Hovland Viktor
    Norway
    1953,2
    5
    3.
    Thomas Justin
    USA
    1946,3
    3
    4.
    Zalatoris Will
    USA
    1702,8
    3
    5.
    Pieters Thomas
    Belgium
    1645,2
    7
    6.
    Fox Ryan
    New Zealand
    1299,4
    10
    7.
    Larrazabal Pablo
    Spain
    1183,2
    10
    8.
    Bland Richard
    England
    1060,7
    9
    9.
    Meronk Adrian
    Poland
    972,8
    12
    10.
    Arnaus Adria
    Spain
    970,5
    11
    11.
    Smith Jordan
    +2
    England
    932,5
    11
    12.
    Lowry Shane
    -1
    Ireland
    911,6
    5
    13.
    Horsfield Sam
    -1
    England
    906,3
    5
    14.
    Hatton Tyrrell
    England
    839,8
    5
    15.
    Bekker Oliver
    South Africa
    819,5
    14
    16.
    Wu Ashun
    China
    808,6
    13
    17.
    Sharma Shubhankar
    India
    796,5
    10
    18.
    Perez Victor
    +6
    France
    787,6
    8
    19.
    Olesen Thorbjorn
    -1
    Denmark
    787,3
    10
    20.
    Cabrera-Bello Rafa
    -1
    Spain
    740,2
    6
    21.
    Fleetwood Tommy
    +1
    England
    740,0
    6
    22.
    Lawrence Thriston
    -1
    South Africa
    733,2
    14
    23.
    Morikawa Collin
    -3
    USA
    713,8
    5
    24.
    Otaegui Adrian
    -1
    Spain
    689,1
    12
    25.
    Samooja Kalle
    +61
    Finland
    682,9
    12
    26.
    Ferguson Ewen
    -1
    Scotland
    627,4
    12
    27.
    Long Hurly
    Germany
    609,7
    13
    28.
    Harding Justin
    -2
    South Africa
    600,2
    10
    29.
    Fitzpatrick Matthew
    -1
    England
    581,7
    3
    30.
    Soderberg Sebastian
    -1
    Sweden
    579,4
    12
    31.
    Hanna Chase
    -1
    USA
    565,9
    14
    32.
    Power Seamus
    -1
    Ireland
    555,3
    3
    33.
    Fisher Ross
    -1
    England
    540,5
    13
    34.
    Norris Shaun
    -1
    South Africa
    516,0
    6
    35.
    Hojgaard Nicolai
    -1
    Denmark
    505,6
    10
    36.
    Scott Adam
    -1
    Australia
    503,8
    5
    37.
    Paul Yannik
    +1
    Germany
    474,8
    13
    38.
    Besseling Wil
    +66
    Netherlands
    474,6
    13
    39.
    Ancer Abraham
    -3
    Mexico
    459,3
    3
    40.
    du Plessis Hennie
    -3
    South Africa

      DonM Today I was able to find the actual LIV Golf feed on YouTube.
      How come so few guys are under par?

      Weather was really bad the first two days as I understand it.

        rsvman2 They are back, and deliberately this time. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news.

        Yep, they've been the trend for awhile now

          garyt1957 The only reason they did that is all their decent players would have jumped to the US tour where the money and prestige is. They didn't do it out of any caring for their players.

          My point is, the shoe is on the other foot now.
          I would disagree slightly on your second point though.
          The Euro Tour is not the same (now) as it used to be. The players voices are heard.

              Spuzz yea, but why are the player's voices heard? Because they know they'll go play in the US if they don't listen. Competition is a good thing.

                  azgreg

                  They need the money? They've got families to feed? What did they do with the gazillion $ they already had?

                  At least GP is honest about them jumping ship for the payday. Not sure how much they "need the money".

                      azgreg

                      Do you know what Viraj Madappa, Phachara Khongwatmai, Jinichiro Kozuma all have in common? They all beat Phil Mickelson this week.

                      That's because Phil bet $50 grand on himself to lose.

                        garyt1957 Because they know they'll go play in the US if they don't listen. Competition is a good thing.

                        or they leave the US and play in the LIV...
                        This is my point.

                          Eguller Did I just hear a gigantic THUD ? 🙄

                          I have zero interest in the LIV sideshow. Only interest is in the PGA vs LIV fallout. The sellout guys are now on my Rick Astley/KC & The Sunshine Band list.

                              sdandrea1 The sellout guys are now on my Rick Astley/KC & The Sunshine Band list.

                              I have a slightly different named list for them. I loved the fit & quality of G.Norman shirts/shorts and
                              now I feel like burning them - but there is a burn ban in our township. 🤬

                                  like heard on the radio that they have seven major champions and five Masters champs on their tour now.
                                  Not much of a golf historian, so I'm not sure who they all are, but as for Master's champs they have Schwartzel, Reed, Philly Mick.... who else? Did Oostie win once? I didn't think so, but he blitzed the Open once. DJ?