garyt1957 Phil really got a bad deal by being the first.

Yeah $200 mil for being pretty much past his prime, got to feel bad for the guy!😉

      darpar doesn't matter about his abilities. People were destroying him. I'd bet Rahm probably said something derogatory about him back then if you were to go check. He was the sacrificial lamb. Now it's gotten easier

          garyt1957 He was the sacrificial lamb.

          I think you read the wrong chapter of 'the book'......he was he Chosen One'!!

          Absolutely never a sacrifice on his part nor for him/his family.

              garyt1957 I'd bet Rahm probably said something derogatory about him back then if you were to go check

              I haven’t checked myself, but I doubt he said anything bad. Phil’s brother Tim coached Rahm in college and from what I’ve read they’re good friends.

              Edit: “Rahm won 11 tournaments for ASU. When he turned pro, Tim Mickelson left his coaching position to become Rahm's agent. If that sounds like a familiar story, it's because Mickelson's brother Phil, the 42-time winner and World Golf Hall of Fame member, played at ASU for Steve Loy, who left the school to become his agent.”

                Par4QC Absolutely never a sacrifice on his part nor for him/his family.

                You don't think the abuse he took had any effect on him and his family?

                    garyt1957 I laugh at that question for a couple reasons.....his wife/family adore him and believe in him +100%. And as he has shown since entering the PGA Tour, he absolutely thrives on abuse!!

                    So, my answer is a resounding...NO.

                      I sure hope they can leverage a TV contract in the U.S. I think it’s kind of cool to watch with everyone in the same conditions and with the same number of holes played.

                      My wife and I will watch golf from Australia and South Africa where we only recognize a handful of names. So I reckon we can watch any lineup that remains on the PGA Tour.

                        DonM My wife and I will watch golf from Australia and South Africa

                        Love watching the animals in the nature preserve next door.

                          I’m sure the Tour viewed professional US golf as its birthright. They couldn’t believe anyone would have the nads to take them on. Hence the outrage. It seems like they are getting real now.

                          Gandhi said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

                          So far this thing seems to be following that path.

                          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/golf/2023/12/08/jon-rahm-liv-golf-patrick-cantlay-pga-tour-coup/

                          Interesting article on the power struggle going on in these negotiations.

                          “Patrick Cantlay-led power coup’ blamed for Jon Rahm’s £450m LIV move
                          High-ranking official believes players' revolt to seize power from executives resulted in world No 3 joining Saudi-backed rebel competition.”

                          “Sports Illustrated claims that Cantlay, Woods and Jordan Spieth – McIlroy’s replacement on the board – have formed an alliance which is courting US investors, including Fenway Sports and Todd Boehly, the owners of Premier League clubs Liverpool and Chelsea respectively.”

                          “Now, with a six-five split of players to executives it would be the golfers who ultimately have the last word.”

                            Sneakylong Is Woods actually a board member or an advisor, with no voting rights?
                            I'm too lazy to look it up myself.😄

                                Sneakylong

                                The players do not have a majority. There are twelve. Six player directors, and six non-player directors (five independent directors, and one director representing the PGA of America).

                                    Stu1961

                                    Talking about voting board members. The PGA of America director is a non voting position. So the players do have a majority 6-5.

                                    “It means the six player-directors will outnumber the five independent directors on the board, with the PGA of America director holding a non-voting position.”

                                    “The new board will be comprised of six player directors, five Independent directors, and the PGA of America Director. The other player directors are Patrick Cantlay, Charley Hoffman, Peter Malnati, Rory McIlroy, and Webb Simpson.”

                                    “The new agreement is billed as an assurance that the PGA Tour remains "for the players, by the players, and gives the players an upper hand when it comes to partnering with LIV Golf."