sdandrea1 Maybe they're just trying to bust up the PGA monopoly on competitive pro golf? That would open the door to move about in the scene as desired.......IF their LIV agreements allow.

Greg Norman is just doing what he wanted to do 30 years ago, but failed to do. Which is his 'Stars' Tour. Now he has a backer with deep pockets.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that these contracts require them to play all of the LIV events. But don't prevent them from playing elsewhere if there is no LIV exhibition going on that week.

LIV is the usurper here. The PGA Tour doesn't want to give any ground to a competitor that they cannot financially compete with. LIV wasn't part of the lawsuit. LIV has no claim of harm imo.

They're getting players and having their events. It's the players that wanted their cake and eat it too and tried unsuccessfully to claim they were being harmed by being suspended by the PGA Tour.

Reading the tea leaves the PGA Tour may have to make some minor adjustments. But both the PGA Tour and LIV have contractional obligations that the player agrees to by being a member.

I wonder who will be the first LIV player to say 'I don't want to travel all around the world playing in all the required LIV events'. What will their punishment be for violating their agreements?

      johnnydoom I was merely referring to the fact that our parties throw literal billions into campaigns, with no profits to be made. It is money that is gone forever, and if you watch politics, with nothing to show for it. From either side of the aisle. 😉

      At least the Saudis are not taking that money from their people's wallets/begging it with dinners/donations.

          johnnydoom there is not a payoff anytime soon

          They have stated that at this point, "start up" costs are expected, like any business, and the initial investment is expected to bring some returns down the road, like any business.

            Sneakylong I wonder who will be the first LIV player to say 'I don't want to travel all around the world playing in all the required LIV events'. What will their punishment be for violating their agreements?

            We'd have to know how their contracts read, before giving an educated answer. Doubt we will ever know that.
            If the judge yesterday had the sense to ask to see one, as they should have, we could then get that info.

              Par4QC They will pump in even more in future years. They won't stop. They are 'buying a new face', and it takes time for the old one to get rid of the scars.

              I agree 100%. And in their mind more lipstick on the pig will make them look less like a pig. lol

                  Par4QC that our parties throw literal billions into campaigns,

                  The money they throw away is ours. They are all getting richer by the day. We are the one's that are literally throwing our money away. The Saudis are re-investing their oil profits.

                    Sneakylong But, there are reports that things are getting much better in that country, so maybe this is their 'boost' to make it faster.
                    Let's say in 2 years we see their country has done a huge turnaround, how will people look at them then?
                    Already know the answer.....just look at the talk here about things from 150 yrs. ago, still causing problems. Like slavery, for ex..
                    It won't matter to a lot of people what they do there, they will always be 'bad guys'.

                      Mattyv I will go with Brooks not wanting to play all of the events.

                      When you watch Brooks, it seems he doesn't want to play ANY events. 🤣

                        Sneakylong I wonder who will be the first LIV player to say 'I don't want to travel all around the world playing in all the required LIV events'. What will their punishment be for violating their agreements?

                        Since they are employees of LIV, I assume they could be fired. Then what? Sue them? 🤣🤣🤑

                          As an Independent Contractor, I have had at the same time more than 1 active contract. Doesn't mean I'm an employee of any one of the companies. My obligations doesn't stop me from having multiple clients at the same time. If I don't perform, no pay, maybe no contract. And yes I sign an agreement not to share info between clients.

                          Some will say it isn't the same but as I see it, it should be.

                            Martee

                            Worked with many independent contractors when I was with AT&T. The independent contractors had to adhere to the same rules employees had to adhere to.

                            Businesses are allowed to have rules. Break them and you suffer the consequences. Pretty simple.

                              The 'want their cake and eat it too" is also a BS analogy.
                              Hypocritical at best, but not surprising, given the sheep doing the bleating.
                              Every Euro based player that left that tour to play the majority of events (or even 4 times more) on the PGA Tour, but still remained a card carrying member Euro member (made easier by the revision to 4 mandatory tournaments only and also keeping their Ryder Cup eligibility) is a member of the "cake and eat it too" group.
                              The only difference is the amount of money at LIV being more than the PGA Tour, and special invite.
                              Reeks of pettiness and jealousy to me, and nothing more, with big mouth Rory being the poster boy.

                                European Tour has no problems with letting players play both theirs and LIV. 1 of them is leading their tourney today. Shame on him. 😅

                                Spuzz … but, would Rory be opening his mouth at all if not being paid so handsomely by the PGA? They have to be getting something in return for his 1 hour of work per week position on their board, don’t they?