Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

sdandrea1

Subsonic Ted Williams was a great baseball player and seems to have left a fine legacy.

Ted Williams was involved in the development of our community in Florida.
https://www.citrushills.com/blog/ted-williams-celebrity-spokesman-for-the-villages-of-citrus-hills

Subsonic

sdandrea1 There goes his legacy...

garyt1957

Spuzz he can't hit now, he's only a head. Maybe he could be a manager again, though.

garyt1957

I truly believe Teddy Ballgame was the greatest hitter of all time

Sneakylong

garyt1957

Sadly I don’t remember him when he played. He retired in 1960 when I was 5 and Carl Yastrzemski took his place in left field the following year. Not too shabby of a ball player himself. Reggie Jackson called Yaz the greatest he ever saw. Referring to his 1967 triple crown season.

I had a baseball signed by the 1957 Red Sox that included Williams. That was stolen 30 years ago in a burglary. They didn’t take a basketball signed by the Celtics team of 1965-66. Still have that.

Boston was and is a great sports town. Lots of great ‘legacies’ made there. Lol

Mattyv

ode

Ok, strange Bernhardt story. I was working for a compny about 8 years ago. I was the "new" controller and the gal that I replaced was in town and my whole team went out to lunch with her. She was probably in her mid 50's. Anyway she is talking to everyone and said she was kind of dating some golfer on the Senior Tour. Being a curious golf fan, I asked who it was. Bernhardt Langer she replied. I got back to my office and looked up Mr. Langer on the googles and it indicated that he was a married man of many years with no mention of a pending divorce. So, was she telling fibs, or is Mr. Langer the king of cheaters?

ode

Mattyv lol wow....he was dropping some Bernie Lanchor on the side!

Subsonic

Mattyv What about his legacy? As if using a long putter was not bad enough...

raggmann54

Latest rumor mill story is that Hideki is being offered $400 million to switch to LIV and Captain the Asian Team...Also, the Asian Tour has been rumored to have opened their arms to any LIV golfer for any of their tournaments and they can get World Ranking Points to qualify for the Majors...Feherty starts next week at Bedminister and is also going to produce a New Series on TV for LIV (Is a TV Contract for LIV Golf coming in the near future???)...McCord rumored to be next to sign...Just fired up another batch of popcorn as it's getting interesting...

Eguller

This is a very realistic persepective on this whole mess:

https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2022/07/24/column-liv-golf-tour-news-contracts-pga-tour/

Spuzz

Eguller This is a very realistic perspective on this whole mess

Well, I pretty much said most of what's in that article in this thread, but it's nice to see it summarized in one place.
Just a Spuzzervation.
LOL

Sneakylong

Eguller

Yeah, I mentioned before Paul McGinley has been saying this for awhile now. He sees the PGA Tour headed towards a guaranteed money model. He says the business people he talks to want to see that come to fruition.

And again, I agree. Not sure it’s the best from a competitive point of view, but it would get the top players playing against each other more often. More so than the current model.

Agree as well that the stuff like the shotgun start and goofy name team stuff etc. they can leave to LIV.

Eguller

Sneakylong He sees the PGA Tour headed towards a guaranteed money model.

That is where it will most likely land - a minimal guarantee with substantial competitive $$ available.
Would that not make the players salaried 'employees' subject to those legal standards ? 🤔

Subsonic

Sneakylong Wow, Guess they are following the LIV lead.

Martee

Reading all the articles on professional golf made me realize that the cost to play pro golf day has got to be at least 10x the cost as it was 60 years ago. Heck from having a caddie and manager and a part time coach to having a team of a half dozen, not mention the travel expenses.

Golf has long passed being an individual sport and has become a team sport. Next, teams merge?

For all that criticism LIV guaranteed monies to hear the PGA is headed that way, makes me ask what's the difference (don't say where the money comes from)? In short it is all about the money?

Spuzz

Martee In short it is all about the money?

When there was no money, it was about "legacy", but now, it's all about the money.
The rest of the talk is BS.

Sneakylong

Martee

I wouldn’t say the PGA Tour is headed for a guaranteed money model at all. It’s just some peoples opinion right now looking at the tea leaves. There’s another opinion that the PGA Tour keep it’s current non profit charitable / play for a purse ($3.7 - $20 million per tournament ) model with no guaranteed money.

Par4QC

Sneakylong current non profit charitable / play for a purse ($3.7 - $20 million per tournament )

I don't think the purse money comes from anything 'non-profit'.
Purse money, as I've always understood it comes from sponsors, tickets, etc..
The 'non-profit' proceeds come from the local population where the tourneys are played, plus anything forwarded from donors.
I'd bet it is a complicated matter, finding out exactly/truthfully. (not that I don't trust people/organizations that are 'non-profit'😉)

Stu1961

Sneakylong The most they’ve ever reported to have given to charity in a year (as reported to the IRS, not as misrepresented on TV telecasts) is $50 million. That’s over a 40 plus tournament schedule? I’m not sure there’s a good reason they would want to under-report that.

Stu1961

I don’t mind the shotgun start, nor the added team aspect. Shotgun is just one step further along the line from tournaments that already start groups off both the front and back. Advantage would be in both reduced TV time, but also far less chance of situations - which I really hate - where half the field gets completely different conditions based on their tee times. The team events could be tweaked to work (and still be far better than the pro-am team standings fed to us during PB - where half the field are unknowns). Personally, I think it would be really interesting if they were based off equipment OEMs. It would be great advertising for an OEM to win, but also to show that they could field multiple teams.

MartinD

Stu1961 I don’t mind the shotgun start, nor the added team aspect. Shotgun is just one step further along the line from tournaments that already start groups off both the front and back. Advantage would be in both reduced TV time, but also far less chance of situations - which I really hate - where half the field gets completely different conditions based on their tee times.

There's a limit to the number of players that can be on the golf course at the same time, and most tournaments have fields that are close to double that number (156 is fairly standard, which is 2 waves of 13 three-balls off the 1st and 10th tees) - using a shotgun start in a 'normal' tour event would reduce the time that the course is in use a little bit over a two-tee start, but you would still need to have two waves of players, starting around 6 hours apart..

The simplest way to reduce the amount of time that players are on-course is to make them play faster...

Sneakylong

Stu1961

Start a topic on non profits.😏 The PGA Tour is registered with the IRS as a business league and operates under a non profit status. Take it up with the IRS. 🙄

My post was in response to the talk of them moving to a guaranteed money model or some combination. If they were to do that they most likely would not be able to remain the non profit / charitable model that they currently operate under. Period.

Why? Because they’d have to cough up more in guaranteed money.😉 And they can’t compete with the Saudi money as it is.

Yeah, many charities don’t give as much of a dollar donated as you’d expect. What a revelation. Lol Really has nothing to do with the price of fish in this particular discussion though. Lol

But you get an A for trying to divert the discussion.😕

To summarize.

Keep current purse structure per Tournament. No guaranteed money.
Go to a guaranteed money model.

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