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I have no problem with the players of any sport getting as much as they can. Certainly wasn't always that way. The NCAA for years wouldn't allow a player to have anyone buy them a coke and now with the NIL's in college football it's completely flipped in the players direction.

And given how much money college football brings into the colleges every year the players now getting a cut doesn't seem to be out of line. Although it flipped big time. And now at least little Nicky Saban won't get the best recruits every year. lol Amateur athletes got screwed for a long time.

The NBA seems to be the most players friendly league out of all the professional sports. They have the most say of any of the leagues anyway. So again, I'm all about players getting as much as they can. No issue there with me.

The source of the money? Now that's a different story.

      Sneakylong In your dreams Saban won't get the best recruits. Alabama has rabid fans and they have a lot of rabid fans who are wealthy businessmen.
      Some of the lesser schools may have a well of money, too, and may get a few if the biggest names, but don't undersell the ability of a school like Alabama to do whatever it takes to keep themselves in the limelight.

          Sneakylong

          Sneakylong. Sure they will, it's changing public opinion of them. I just saw them listed as the #7 country for female entrepreneurs and # 5 for LGBT couples to buy a home. It's working! It's working !
          Not taking a shot at you personally, just the ridiculous idea that sports washing works

              Par4QC It's all about the money. You don't seem to understand rich people and think of it as if you yourself had a couple million you'd be happy. These people can spend a million us on taxes, multiple home upkeep, private planes, etc. Not including the cost of said multiple homes, etc. Mike Tyson used to pay $250K a year just to feed his pet tigers. He went broke. They need more money if they hope to keep up that lifestyle.

                  garyt1957

                  Damn, when you put it that way, they should probably be subsidized in some kind of way. Now I feel bad for them.🙄

                      Mattyv. My point is, Par always says they have more money then they'll ever use, but sports careers don't last forever and if they want to keep up that lifestyle for the rest of their lives they'll need more money. Now some of them probably live below their means and might not need anymore but some certainly will

                          Egomaniac meets compulsive gambler. The egomaniac has an axe to grind and the compulsive gambler has squandered his wealth wagering on slow horses and fast businessmen. I can almost hear Norman saying to the Saudis fronting the cash, "If we can just get Mickelson, I think we can get others."

                          Phil is desperate for cash. I'll not be convinced otherwise. No man who is financially set for life with generational wealth compromises everything that Phil has put on the trading block.

                          Finchem destroyed Norman's dream back in '94. Some 28 years later, Norman is wanting to destroy Finchem's legacy.

                          The Saudis, essentially, are just wealthy pawns.

                            PA-PLAYA https://www.si.com/golf/news/feature-2019-11-14-a-man-and-an-idea-ahead-of-their-time

                            This whole LIV thing is like what I've said before, Norman's way of getting even and vindicated (in his mind),
                            for what he tried to do/form decades ago.
                            He might actually be the original "Tableforone",who somehow got the Saudi's to sit down and join him.
                            Just show's how low or to what extent someone is willing to go, to get their way or prove a point!

                              garyt1957 So, you are saying that all of these guys were raised rich? No, I know you aren't, just sayin'.
                              Never understood those types, and apparently every one of those guys forgot where they came from.

                              When it comes down to it, they aren't taking all that much home, even getting $150M.

                              garyt1957 Par always says they have more money then they'll ever use

                              I suppose they may be like the people that hit big lottos, and declare bankruptcy 3 years later. Damned idiots.

                              I'll never understand any of that, I guess. I play for the fun of it. 😅

                                    rsvman2

                                    I don’t underestimate little Nicky Saban being able to adapt to the new NIL and transfer portal era at all. It’s just now other colleges can compete with recruiting because as we know money talks.

                                    NIL’s and the transfer portal has essentially brought free agency to college football. Saw where the Ohio State football coach thought it would take $13 million to maintain their roster for example.

                                        PA-PLAYA Phil is desperate for cash. I'll not be convinced otherwise. No man who is financially set for life with generational wealth compromises everything that Phil has put on the trading block.

                                        https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/mickelson-said-to-be-nervous-about-billy-walters-memoir

                                        Phil was quite the gambler and not a very good one it seems. It'll be interesting to see what Billy Walters has to say in his book.

                                        “Phil’s not a very good gambler. It’s pretty clear that he loses more than he wins by all anecdotal evidence,” said Shipnuck Thursday while appearing as a guest on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz. “Phil thinks he’s smarter than the house.”

                                        “Billy Walters went to jail and Phil Mickelson was mixed up in that. Billy’s looking to settle scores,” warned Shipnuck. “There’s an element of vengeance here. And he has no compunction of telling both sides of the story. He knows where the bodies are buried.”

                                        “Billy ultimately decided not to talk to me because he wanted to save it for his book,” said Shipnuck. “Phil’s nervous about that book, and he probably should be.”

                                          garyt1957 didn't some lesser school just steal some players from Sanan by offering $1 million NIL deals

                                          Haven't heard that. But Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Clemson and Virginia lost out to Texas for the number 1 recruit of 2023 in Arch Manning. The son of Cooper Manning and nephew of Peyton and Eli. The 18 year old high school QB could make millions before he sets foot on a college football field.

                                          https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34136486/qb-arch-manning-no-1-recruit-2023-class-commits-texas

                                            scotts33 - excellent perspective from Bob Ley. I appreciate the link because I had planned to read up on the NBA - China connection myself. What wasn't mentioned was I thought there was an NBA GM outspoken about playing in China so China canceled some NBA telecasts/games until they retracted their statements?