MidwayJ

What if the guy (Malcolm Saxon) who Peyton says he was mooning wrote a letter to Peyton imploring him to come clean and do the right thing and tell the truth. Would that have some sway in who is telling the truth here between Peyton Manning and Dr. Naughright? Saxon says he told the truth and lost his eligibility for it. The letter in it's entirety is in the Dead Spin article.

"Once Rollo came up with the idea that it was mooning intended for Malcolm Saxon, the narrative goes, “Manning adopted that term with a vengeance.”

"The 2003 document also includes a letter from Saxon to Manning, saying, “I stuck to the truth, and I lost my eligibility for it.”

      Sneakylong
      That provides evidence that what happened was more than her seeing him moon Saxon. However, it does says nothing about whether he made physical contact with her, which she did not herself allege in 1996.

          Sneak, I've got no bone to pick with you. I'm sure you're a good fella. I'll just respectfully disagree with your opinion and leave it at that.

          Whether Manning is a great guy or a douche bag ain't impacting how much I admired the way he played football. I could also say the same thing about Tom Brady. Frankly - they're both Hall of Famers and what either of them did or didn't do in their personal lives, founded or unfounded, doesn't change the impact they had on the game.

          I've given Brady his due on numerous occasions. Maybe it's time you let your guard down just long enough to recognize what his rival has done throughout his career to be mentioned in the same sentence with him.

          This shit ain't that important to me!

          Peace.

            PA-PLAYA

            Scott,

            You have a way of replying without losing your train of thought while still being inundated by endless Tripe. I am enamored of your self-control.

            Bravo

                PA-PLAYA

                I think Peyton has had a great hall of fame career. My issue as you know is in the huge disparity in how the media and people in general went after Brady and gave Peyton a pass on the HGH and now want to do the same (dismiss it) with the sexual assault. Obvious media bias and double standard IMO.

                If these two allegations were against Brady there would be non stop media coverage.

                    MidwayJ

                    The point is Saxon wants Peyton to "come clean", "tell the truth". The mooning Saxon was a made up story. Peyton latching on to this (made up) mooning garbage tells more about his credibility than it does about Dr. Naughright's.

                      FauxAmish

                      Take the tutu off and put the pom poms down. Cheerleading from the peanut gallery adds little.

                        Sneakylong I think Peyton has had a great hall of fame career. My issue as you know is in the huge disparity in how the media and people in general went after Brady and gave Peyton a pass on the HGH and now want to do the same (dismiss it) with the sexual assault. Obvious media bias and double standard IMO.

                        If these two allegations were against Brady there would be non stop media coverage.

                        The media, in general, all report with bias. I wonder why they think it's more fun to hate Brady...............

                            I think this revelation is a game changer: Naught right called sexual assault center day of incident. ESPN is all over this. Her words that day lend credibility to her allegations.

                              Toulon

                              I heard this as well. Very telling IMO.

                              I think what we're seeing in the media as well as with some here is the painting of Manning as the victim. Even the Sports Reporters on ESPN had that take. Tampa Bay Times Sports columnists Tom Jones called them out on this in Sundays paper.

                              I think with the HGH story as well as the sexual assault case it all ensures that Peyton will retire. It will be interesting if any of his sponsors drop him.

                                Not looking good for Peyton that's for sure. Gotta believe those on the fence have jumped off against him now. He does have quite the PR machine especially with Ari Fleischer working for him now. The Packers used him not long ago.

                                I had no clue what to believe but now if you asked me to bet, I'd put my money on his guilt. That Manning family is something. I still can't believe Eli didn't get hammered more for his San Diego stunt orchestrated by Archie. Always Teflon and immune from everything. Might finally be changing.

                                sdandrea1

                                http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/21/roger-goodell-new-england-patriots-nfl-draft-picks-combine-preview

                                One reason would be because it's fun to try to take down a winner, especially if the thinking is they've won because of nefarious doings. Peter King now says that Goodell should give the draft picks back and gives the details of why he thinks that. Even one NFL team exec said the punishment was draconian.

                                Peyton was the media darling coming out of college being the number 1 pick etc.. That hasn't changed much over the years. Sixth round draft pick Brady threw a monkey wrench into what Manning could've achieved.

                                It's complicated and would probably take a psychologist to try to explain it.

                                    Sneakylong Sixth round draft pick Brady threw a monkey wrench into what Manning could've achieved.

                                    Wrong! Indy's crappy defense, and lack of a decent running game was the problem. You notice how Denver beat New England and Brady this post season. It's the same way the Giants and Ravens, and any other team that gives Brady fits beats them. You pound him into the pavement with a beast of a defensive line and linebackers that are on him like white on rice on every play.

                                    It's only been 15 years, but I'm still waiting for the three other teams in the AFC East to figure this out.

                                        PIGDivot

                                        New England's crappy offensive line contributed to Denver's impressive defense against them. In order to do what Denver did you need great edge rushers and a very good secondary. If you haven't got those and you put 8 in the box a QB like Brady will torch you. Most teams especially in the AFC east don't have those two things, hence why the Patriots are perennial winners in that division.

                                          I'll give Tom Brady this much credit - if you give him sufficient protection - the odds of beating him become extremely low, even with him relying on an average receiving corps.

                                          But on that same token - you just have to credit Denver for recognizing where the Pats weaknesses were and exploiting them. Even at that - they damned near lost that game, and all because of Brady's awareness. I'm not going to trash Brady in what might appear to some as an effort to endlessly defend Manning from something that may or may not have happened 20 years ago.

                                          To be completely fair - I would be no different if it were Brady being exploited for something he may or may not have done 20 years ago.

                                          I ain't that petty, and I sure as hell ain't that stupid.

                                          sdandrea1 The media, in general, all report with bias. I wonder why they think it's more fun to hate Brady...............

                                          I don't think the media hates Brady. He gets pulled down by the reputation of Belichick and the Patriots. The cheating incidents have tainted the organization as a whole and Brady is the face of the team. People were willing to believe deflategate because the reputation had already been established. Do I think any of the crap Belichick has pulled helped the Patriots much to win games? No. He is stupid for giving rival fans ammunition to discredit their success.

                                            professor I hate Brady. I also think he's one of the best QB's I've seen in my lifetime. I hate Brady because I'm jealous. He sleeps with Gisele! He is such a loser!

                                            Gisele will grow weary of him sooner or later - you'll have a shot professor. 8*)