Wilson Driver

Bangoman · 2016-12-12T16:11:47+00:00

I called a few friends that purchased the Wilson driver and their exact words: "Not only are they not selling no one even asking about them." Your thoughts...

LBlack14

Release If you read the whole thread which you posted, the explanation of why the sole plates on the 10.5° and the 12° were non conforming, with photos........is plain and simple.
Not a big issue to be"fixed". A very sloppy job from the factory, be able to pass the inspection by Wilson is like someone just got into the biz. not long ago.

Sloppy. Like Wilson did not expect a while lot out of this driver.

And why does that matter? So what, you can see the sole plate at address, big whoop!! Who came up with the rule that says you can't or where is it printed??

Bangoman

LBlack14

The BB450was deemed non conforming as you could see the leading edge sole plate. I fought them and won the decision.

Release

LBlack14 And why does that matter? So what, you can see the sole plate at address, big whoop!! Who came up with the rule that says you can't or where is it printed??

You got a point there, but think of this, why is there rules in life ? Period !
Steve was right, that Wilson did not submit the new prototype to the USGA by the protocol probably has something to do with this announcement from the USGA, which the USGA could have inform the Wilson to correct the issues quietly.

Bangoman

sdandrea1

That ruling did not become a rule until a few years ago. Anything before that is grandfathered in.

sdandrea1

Bangoman

Thank God. Can't imagine not playing my Eye 2 irons. 😉

Release

ode

Well ?

If a golf ball moved while a player addressing the golf ball, or not ? The game is formed around rule and regulations. To compete in the highest level of this game, every natty gritty matters, and everyone needs to conform, for fairness of play.
For the weekend golfers, who cares ?

We like to attack the USGA and in a few cases they deserved the criticism. No one like to be policed. All we have to do is take a step back and imagine a world without enforced rules and regulations. I don't believe human beings are capable of self governing at this point of evolution. Perhaps in a few centuries if, we don't extinguish ourselves first.

sdandrea1

Release

I don't think anyone here thinks there shouldn't be rules or a governing body. The dissatisfaction seems you be with the complexity, inconsistencies, and politics involved in the implementation.

Bangoman

LBlack14

Triangle shape is a great design!!!

mcavoy

ode Plailn in shape? This is the same organization that deemed the Cameron Futura putter plain in shape and a million other bizarre looking putters?

LBlack14

mcavoy Plailn in shape? This is the same organization that deemed the Cameron Futura putter plain in shape and a million other bizarre looking putters?

Exactly.

LBlack14

Plain I mean. I don't know what "plailin" means.

Release

sdandrea1 The dissatisfaction seems you be with the complexity, inconsistencies, and politics involved in the implementation.

How so ?

rsvman

Uncle Steve nailed it.

Release

rsvman

Yes, the lack of showing respect for the authority is bad business. Steve knows it best since he had dealt with the similar issue in the past. Especially when Wilson did not run a tight quality control of checking out every litter detail of the design before sending it to the market.
I think the changes in the loft had shifted the shape of the driver head ever so slightly that the generic sole plate didn't fit the 10° and the 12° like they do the 9°.
Like they say in the link..... missed by millimeter.

sdandrea1

Release

It would be easier if you could point out rules that read in simple English, are consistently called and enforced from event to event, and convince me that the Wilson ruling wasn't a political show of power.

The DJ debacle at the US Open was botched again in an LPGA event a month or so after. I speak of when and how to inform a player that "there may have been a penalty, but we're not sure.....just keep playing and we'll tell you later"......twice in one season? Seriously?

Release

sdandrea1

You'll have my vote if a seat on the board of USGA is open.
Maybe by then you will understand the scope of running this organization.

Goal is to safe guard the tradition while promoting the game of golf in the meantime also to secure the interest of the USGA and it's members. As for interpretation of the rules. Even the Supreme Court justice could not satisfied everyone.
If there is noise that's loud enough , maybe the rules will be rewritten. Then we'll have 2 sets of rules to go by. The traditional and the whatever you say is good. I'd put my 2 cents on the traditional rules being the survivor

In plain English, the rules are subject to the interpretation of the governing body of the USAGA if an event is sanctioned under such rules. Like it or not, play it as it lies.

LBlack14

sdandrea1 It would be easier if you could point out rules that read in simple English, are consistently called and enforced from event to event, and convince me that the Wilson ruling wasn't a political show of power.

Exactly!!

Somebody seems to be "Beatin' 'round the bush!"

sdandrea1

Release

Just my perception from where I sit. Don't really care if anyone shares my opinion.

Par4QC

I'm laughing at all of you guys!!

Who the fuck, on this forum, cares whether that uglyass driver passed or not? Who was going to buy it....at the price? I've stated before, you'll not buy this driver cheaper 1 year from now, Wilson does not do their biz that way.(just look at the prices of their current/last year's models) BTW, the 9 is on the conforming list, so there is that. I don't play 12 or (seldom if ever) 10.5*. I still wouldn't buy it, even for $75!!

And, someone mentioned that.... "be able to pass the inspection by Wilson is like someone just got into the biz, not long ago." We must keep in mind whose driver this really is, and who is(was) getting money from sales, the same as Wilson....The Golf Channel!!

AND.....if we all play & live by the same rules, where is the bitch? Now....if there should be different interpretations, well then, we all got a bitch there. IF it should ever(highly doubted) happen to any of us hacks.

Release

Par4QC it's called making a market for the forum discussions.

Par4QC

Besides all that, OMG Golf is gonna fix us all up with new toys next year. And they'll pass. And look nice.

(hopefully they are plain in shape)😜

Bangoman

Par4QC st

We believe in 'odd in shape'! 🏈

Release

sdandrea1
And you're entitled to your own opinion.
Not that I entirely don't agree with you.
For what they pay the positions. Should be better candidates sitting in those chairs.

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