Vertical grooved driver

Release

As always, claimed more distance and straighter hits.
What's your take on this "new" stuff.

Vertical grooves had been there for a long time, in fact several times in the last century and never took off.
This driver also has the "speed bumps" on the crown, would that make any difference? If it's withing the USGA conforming rules then, what could be drastically different.

http://www.newson6.com/story/33726190/cutting-edge-vertical-groove-driver-debuts-in-golf-industry-golf-equipment-innovation-to-change-the-face-of-golfforever

todero

I'm curious too...Killer Bee (Golfsmith?) did vertical grooves...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KILLER-BEE-10-5-DEGREE-DRIVER-RH-GRAFALLOY-SHAFT-/112206744372?hash=item1a200b0b34:g:9-4AAOSwal5YLN1e

ode

GS did release a vertical groove driver under the Killer Bee line.

Bangoman

It's been done several times. So right off the bat they are BSing. The owner of the Patent is/was located in Florida and was an old friend of mine. He sold the rights to this company 3 or 4 years ago. Golfsmith was paying a royalty to use the Patent on their head. The Patent holder wanted me to use on Geek heads but I wasn't interested as I just couldn't understamd how vertical grooves wouldn't increase side spin with the majority of players that make the dreaded outside in swing that produces the 'slice'. Cutting across the face with vertical grooves and telling slicers it's going to go straighter...well, hard to buy into. And I read the existing data at that time. And the head looks very much like the rough drawing presented to me for Geek. And the timeline seems about right as you will notice the head color is white and 4 years ago white heads were hot.

brsmith

Bangoman I agree with the side spin, coming across the ball could only increase it as the grooves are providing traction. Also, aren't grooves on a thin face just an opportunity for a stress riser?

ode

2006-07 GS catalogs

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Bangoman

Interesting Ode. About 2009/10 was when I was approached to incorporate VG with Geek. And if memory serves this company is a info-commercial group of some sort.

ode

Not sure how the vert grooves would help with alignment.....even if they did, it's pretty darn off putting to look at....why not just have two vert lines on the face...like a runway or road ... I dunno, seems like it would more subtle and make a bit more sense.

Bangoman

ode
They don't help with alighment. More BS. No groove pattern on the face of a Driver helps aligh with target. But something tells me they will do an info commercial as that is what they had in mind from the get go. So standby for shades of Jack Hamm Ode

ode

Bangoman lol

darpar

Still have a couple B-Stings.
Btw,the vertical grooves can slice/hook a ball just as well as horizontal grooves!! 😉

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ode

darpar love the way your dipped drivers look....groovy

Bangoman

darpar

Probably better, Dar.

Typhoon

ode

Fu#$ing Easter egg...

Release

I had received several email for the Black Friday promotion.

Wonder why they waited so long to market it.

Bangoman

Release

Ya' got to get your BS down pat....LOL

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Bangoman

Yeah, right ?
But no statistic to back up the claim.

Bangoman

Release

Since when did that mean anything,, R?

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Bangoman

You should know. :- )

However in the age we're in right now, everyone seemed to believe in numbers compiled by unknown sources.
This is as far as I had gone.

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ZWExton

I think I've seen data indicating that any grooves on a modern driver are purely cosmetic. Not enough loft for the ball to "roll" up the face, and since there's no moisture involved in a teed up strike, grooves are pointless, no?

So if it's purely cosmetic... Yikes. That ain't what I want to see.

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ZWExton

We all want to believe the fairy tale and miracle, don't we ?
The 15 yards longer model had sold a lot of drivers each model year until golfers got wised up.

Provisional

ZWExtonIt don't matter if you dab on a little

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Bam!