Toulon
I also like him more due to a co-worker telling me of meeting Speith in a buffet line at the Travelers tournament. She said he was down to earth and kind. Shows great character in his life, in interviews and when playing. I’ll root for someone like that all the time.

    I think Wolf, Hovland, and Morikawa could be interesting to watch over the next 5 years. One of them could have the potential to be a breakout star.

    Toulon Even wise old Earl couldn't see that it would be both. Injury via marriage.

    I think wise old Earl was part of the problem and it wasn't marriage that killed the beast, it was lack of respect for the institution and commitment to it. He was a fuckhead and evidently didn't care.

    I have no qualms with Tiger now, we all make mistakes and gawd knows he's paid dearly. Ya live, learn and grow from it.... hopefully.

        LBlack14

        I agree, LB. I was making a joke. It was not marriage, but his infidelity that got him the 9-iron to the face. That'll traumatize anyone and throw a golfer off his game. I'd rather be dirt poor and honorable in my marriage than a trillionaire and a schmuck.

            Toulon That got him the 9-iron to the face.

            Thought it was a 5 iron?

              Toulon but his infidelity that got him

              Times what? 30 ? 40 ? Really doesn't matter I suppose.

                  Toulon the 9-iron to the face.

                  I think we know by now, exactly where that 9i hit, and it wasn't the face. Although he damaged the marriage, beyond repair, wonder how she feels about damaging him, beyond repair, along with his career? He feels the guilt, obviously, by not taking her for every penny he gave her, and more.
                  jmo, observations, of course.

                      Unfortunately, with the proliferation of social media, the influencers want to alter perceptions of everybody and everything.

                      Look at Tiger. All of the Tiger/Charlie love at the Father Son Tournament. Trying to make Father look like Dad of the Year when he is or was a schmuck.

                      It is rare in the "look at me" society that we live in where a person will stand on their individual merits.

                        Subsonic. The media will put out the image they think will make them the most money. Regarding Tiger it's the reformed fallen star who is now Father of the Year. Doesn't matter if its true or not they think that plays better than drugged out , wife cheating, waitress banging villain so that's the image we'll be given. Might be true, might not be.

                            garyt1957 By and large your statement has a lot of truth. People need to use critical thinking skills now more than ever.

                              I will ask you to take a look at this from the other side.

                              I was actually there at Brown Deer in Milwaukee the day Tiger turned pro taking photographs. See image and ticket stub.

                              My question is... Besides the US Amateur wins, what was it about Tiger, or moreover, THAT day when he was pulled off the course (as he wasn't supposed to be there actually) for his "Hello World" speech? That propelled him into the spotlight??

                              He actually signed a $40 million dollar contract with Nike that didn't include the golf ball. He still used Titleist. He did not even have the money that day and barely could pay for dinner because the money wasn't in the account. I heard all of this from him directly as I was standing two feet from him and his mom for quite a while.

                              The Media?!

                              How about Ricky Fowler ?
                              Jordan Speith?
                              Bryson?

                              The Media for any of them?!

                              Just a question.


                              Eguller - I was able to move on from Tiger and watch him rebuild his relationships and move on with his career.

                              But, when Lindsey Vonn accused him of cheating and walked out of his life, I lost hope for him and let the old dog wallow in his sheit.

                              His ex does seem to be sincere in her appreciation for Tiger remaining involved in their childrens' lives.