mulegolf I'm in what's called the snow belt. 30 miles south of the city of Erie and the lake that goes with it. The storms, deep snow, etc. used to come our way. Lake effect when the lake is not frozen over. We've been lucky for quite a few years. If the wind direction would be just right, we could get the stuff that Buffalo has been getting lately. I can remember 30 below and very deep snow years ago. Had a Chevy 30 four wheel drive van with lots of ground clearance and once got stuck right in the middle of the road on my way to work. Had to shovel the snow from under the van to get the tires back on the road. Oh the good old days.