garyt1957 Yep. If I had lipped out the 25-foot birdie putt on hole 7 instead of draining it, we would have won the second flight.

The last time this happened to me it was even funnier... the guy who kept score wrote down a par on a hole where we actually made birdie, and he turned in the card with the wrong score. Charles comes up to me after the round, angry that the other guy turned in the wrong score. So I told him if lt bothered him that much, he should go let the officials know that we actually scored one shot better than the card showed. So he did.

And we would have won $75 in the pro shop if he had left well enough alone. 🤣

      Played in a scramble tournament at a local golf course with 3 buddies. We shot 10 under, but left a couple
      of putts on the lip...!!! Oh well.....still had a good time in great fall weather, and each guy made $10 bucks!!

      Not well enough to count. Fortunately my son forgot to record the score for a few holes so I don't actually know the total, but it wasn't worth knowing anyway. A bright, sunny, and actually fairly hot day. Course was good, greens were fast, the group 3 ahead of us definitely weren't either.

      Back to the slumpbuster. 38-36-74. 2 hours. Didn't do anything special but if you keep the ball in play and putt reasonably you'll score. Hit 9 GIR and 30 putts.
      And finally breached single digits. This is the ultimate vanity cap. Won't travel for shit but I can say I've hit single digits for the first time in 15-20 years.

        Improved my last score by 2 strokes with a 92 today. The golf swing seems like a foreign movement. 2 pars, 12 bogeys and 4 doubles. Beautiful weather. Got around in 2 hours playing the dew loop alone.

        garyt1957 That sounds like the dumbest thing ever to me?

        It is dumb. We had 21 teams and they just listed the teams in order of finish and drew a line after team 7 and 14. 3 flights. 🙄

            sdandrea1 And there are no ties for 1st in flight.
            If you and another shoot 84 and end up tied for 7th, 1 will be 7th and the other will be a winner at 8. Card-back tie breakers. Only way to keep flights even in numbers. Just part of the flighted tourney system. (non-handicapped)

              Played Ozarks National in Missouri today. It's a Coore-Crenshaw track, and it is spectacular.
              It was somewhat cold at our tee time, and the wind picked up throughout the round, blowing 20-30 mph most of the round. So we were layered up.
              Tough track, especially in those conditions. I hit the ball pretty well, for the most part. Shot 38 on the front, but ballooned to a 44 on the back, which is much longer and more difficult anyway, and we played it in much higher winds.

              Overall, I was pretty happy with the way I played.

              Payne's Valley today. Better weather, with less wind. Beautiful views from the course.
              Hit it worse than yesterday and scored a full six strokes higher. Some of that felt a little bit like getting screwed, though. For example, a fairly good iron shot that looked like it would hold the edge of a very narrow green takes one more roll and then goes down a very steep slope, leaving an almost impossible chip shot. On the 18th I took one club too much for the approach, flushed it right at the flag, but that ended up off the back in fairly long rough. Decided to belly a wedge up there gently. The shot looked almost perfect, and almost stopped about three feet from the hole. Thereafter, it picked up steam and rolled for another 50 feet, leaving, instead of a kick-in par, a very difficult two-putt for bogey.

              Anyway, it was still a good time, and the scenery from the course is absolutely amazing. And yes, I hit the green at the 19th hole and had a tap-in par.

              Playing Mountain Top tomorrow. Watched a guy hit a hole in one there tonight right after our round.

                rsvman2. When I read your review of your round at Ozark it didn't click where you were. Payne's Valley is a bucket list course for me. Sounds like a great time. Are you staying on site?

                    garyt1957 Nearby, at Angler's Lodge in Hollister. It's a lot less expensive than the cabins and lodges that are actually on site. You have to stay either on site or at this hotel in order to book a round at any of the courses.

                      rsvman2 For example, a fairly good iron shot that looked like it would hold the edge of a very narrow green takes one more roll and then goes down a very steep slope, leaving an almost impossible chip shot.

                      My local PB DYE course (The Gauntlet) features this design (flaw) on nearly every hole. 🤬

                          sdandrea1 My local PB DYE course (The Gauntlet) features this design (flaw) on nearly every hole

                          My course has this on some holes. In the past it wasn't hugely penal because the grass was shaggy enough in most spots to hold the ball up. This year we went quite a while without rain and our new super let things dry out a lot and we learned how far the ball could roll down away from the green lol. Also with the ground and greens being harder, average shots could bounce a long ways off. I can't remember yelling "get in the bunker" ever until recently.....our bunkers suck, but suddenly the alternatives were even worse.

                            Our course is a lot like this too. I think it is the curse of having an architect design a "championship" or "resort" course. In our case it's supposed to be a "championship" course, although I think it's more like resort course because it has wide fairways. To me it is an unbalanced design idea. Typically not that hard off the tees, but very hard coming into the greens. I'd like to see more balance. But whatever, it's definitely challenging and not boring.

                            Also, and I think this is a southern/ Bermudagrass thing, the conditions change a lot throughout the year, so different shots and skills are helpful at different times of the year. I never felt that way in the north.

                              DonM Typically not that hard off the tees, but very hard coming into the greens. I'd like to see more balance. But whatever, it's definitely challenging and not boring.

                              Sounds like a typical, higher end Nicklaus course design IMO.

                                  Played Mountain Top today. I had never played it before. It has 13 holes. They are all par threes, but it is not a pitch-and-putt. The second hole said 203 on the card, but it was straight uphill and played longer. There was another that was 196, and two that were between 175 and 185. Very difficult greens.
                                  It's a walking course only. They put your bag on a rudimentary but capable push cart. A LOT of altitude changes makes it a robust walk. About 7500 steps for me.

                                  I parred every single one of the long, hard holes. Got up and down from front right on hole 2; hit the center of the green on all the other long holes. Had a double-bogey on a short, downhill par three when I pulled my wedge and ended up almost completely plugged in a greenside bunker.

                                  Had one birdie. Ended up four over for the thirteen holes, which I thought was decent for me.

                                  An incredible amount of fun. Vistas everywhere that were amazing. Large hawks flying overhead.

                                  A great time, and considerably less expensive than the other courses. Highly recommended if you have the stamina.