Bravopilot I donā€™t see anything great about the new putters. There is nothing groundbreaking. No putter is claiming ā€œ 3 more inches!!ā€ What is Scotty Cameron doing to Newportā€™s every year to make them more whateverā€¦ nothing. Iā€™ve found a sweet spot of putter years that I like. The NP from you is that year, my Ping Redwood Anser.

      Sneakylong When I got down to 193 I justified not staying there because I didnā€™t want to buy a new wardrobe. Lol

      HaHa, I got down to 155 (at 5'10") and 32"waist at 56 or so. Threw out all my bigger clothes because "I'll never need those again" Oops.

        Typhoon I donā€™t see anything great about the new putters. There is nothing groundbreaking. No putter is claiming ā€œ 3 more inches!!ā€ What is Scotty Cameron doing to Newportā€™s every year to make them more whateverā€¦ nothing. Iā€™ve found a sweet spot of putter years that I like. The NP from you is that year, my Ping Redwood Anser.

        https://www.bunkered.co.uk/gear/why-odyssey-ai-one-putters-use-artificial-intelligence/

        This is interesting. Can putters become more forgiving on mishits? Callaway thinks so. Whether it's marketing hype or real, I'm intrigued. Is this where everyone could gain strokes on the green? Can AI help on mishit putts?

        ā€œWhatā€™s the key similarity between the worldā€™s best and us weekend hackers? We all mishit putts. And when miss the centre of the putter face, the ball doesnā€™t travel as far, so itā€™ll either stay out on either side of the hole, or left short.

        Think about all the times youā€™ve three-putted. Those were mostly due to a lack of control from a mishit putt.

        The Callaway boffins crunched the numbers and worked out that their players lost a combined $25 million in prize money in 2023 due to three-putts. At our level, meanwhile, the average 15-handicap player will three-putt more than three greens per round. There might not be as much on the line, but that will still cause a lot of damage on any scorecard.ā€

        ā€œRahm isnā€™t a player that likes to make changes, but these numbers were enough to convince him to put the Odyssey Ai-One putter in the bag. Is it enough to convince you?ā€

          I am gaming a putter from a good 15 years ago that attacked the problem a different way. The insert is softest in the middle and gets gradually firmer out toward the toe and the heel. Thus a ball struck at any reasonable point on the face goes about the same distance.

          Direction is affected because ir is not a high MOI putter, but when the distance is not affected much, three-putts become a lot less common.

          I played in the muck today, with decent weather.
          83 with 6 GIR and 31 putts. Irons still sucked but I'm going to work on them a lot this weekend.
          Driving has been excellent since I moved the ball back, and started turning my hips on the backswing. I've picked up considerable yardage, which is fun. Who knew you are supposed to turn in a golf swing, and not just swing with your arms?

          The big news is that I am in love. I test drove a LAB Golf Mezz 1 putter today. One of my buddies here has upgraded to their latest one and is selling this one. I made all sorts of putts with it. None for birdie, unfortunately. I am able to hit my line with it a lot better than I can with other putters. Yeah, yeah, honeymoon, blah blah; I'm buying it. Price to be determined, I am at his mercy. He was playing with me and every time I made a tough putt, someone would say "the price just went up". šŸ™‚

          I always liked the Mezz in the stores but never could pull the trigger at those prices. But the damn thing works.

            DonM I've picked up considerable yardage, which is fun. Who knew you are supposed to turn in a golf swing, and not just swing with your arms?

            I had a nasty hernia on the left side the past few years, and a small one on the right I knew nothing about. Never realized how costly it was, in terms of golfing, to just 'let it go'; not much turning to be had. Got it rid of them and now, like you say, tee shots are markedly improved, distance wise. And still straight! Been an improvement also in the fw clubs. Just got to get the iron swing back.

            Golf is easyšŸ˜². And fun.

              Sneakylong How do you putt on the Sim?

              The simā€™s that I have experience with have two long horizontal sensors that are flush into the carpeting towards/closer to the screen that are parallel to each other and maybe a few feet between themā€¦and when you hit it on the green the software normally gives you a ā€œlineā€ that displays on the bottom of screen to aim atā€¦I ā€œcheckā€ my ball in at the normal turf hitting area so it registers with the overhead sensors and it turns green and then I roll the ball forward onto the carpet area to putt it at the yellow ā€œlineā€ā€¦just gotta be careful to keep your ball and putter head behind the first horizontal sensor in the floor when you putt.

              Probably didnā€™t explain this very well but thatā€™s what I gotā€¦šŸ˜‚

                  Sneakylong ow do you putt on the Sim?

                  The screen shows you a grid like a video game worth balls rolling across it in whichever was the slopes are on the green. The info box in the lower right corner tells you how many inches or feet uphill or down hill you are going and how long the putt is. So you have to play the break, not just putt at the middle of the screen.
                  Itā€™s 14 feet to the screen so that helps a bit but chipping and putting are the toughest part.

                      Typhoon So you have to play the break, not just putt at the middle of the screen

                      The SIM I go to allows you to change the aim point on the screen so every putt is actually straight into the screen (off the same mat you hit full shots from). Much better than screwing around with your putting stance. Speed is still the hard part.

                          Spuzz our SIM also has the sim feature which we use on shots . We usually donā€™t use it on putts, feels weird, weā€™d rather play it like we were on a real course

                            VigilanteTrail have two long horizontal sensors that are flush into the carpeting towards/closer to the screen that are parallel to each other and maybe a few feet between them

                            I think I may be inaccurate with the above statementā€¦it might also be overhead sensors for the putting as wellā€¦I will pay more attention on Monday to confirm as we play our 1st round of the playoffs and then a doubleheader 2nd round if we happen to win the firstā€¦

                              When I first started at indoor golf our SIMs were ā€œPar T Golfā€ sims. Had a projector , film strip and a projector under a platform you stood on to play. It was a two level thing with ramps on either side of the projector beam. There was a control panel up where you stood to hit from. There was an actual cup you putted into from letters on the floor on both levels. Letters we different distances based on where you ball landed on the green.

                                Typhoon Letters we different distances based on where you ball landed on the green.

                                Similar for me, except numbers instead of letters, and, there were small mounds and slopes on the floor similar to mini putt. It was awesome at the time.
                                This happened in Quebec on a trip there (it was not here in Ontario) so when I came back and told everyone about it, they thought I was on drugs or something. LOL

                                  Typhoon I prefer it when you can set distances for putts, like inside 3 feet is a one putt, inside 10 feet is a two putt, whatever and then just don't putt at all.

                                      Typhoon Around here in MA a lot of winters we get those 60 degree days and people run to the golf course, wait 3 hours to get out to play once and then not again for another 6 weeks.

                                      Yea, I did that in the past. Went out NY's Day one year , it was 60ish. No tee times, 20 groups lined up to tee off, went back and got a refund.