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sdandrea1 I miss it too Rex. I miss people being accountable and respectful. I miss old fashioned courtesy. I miss people putting others before themselves. I miss kids obeying their parents and teachers. I miss cheap gas. I miss athletes raising their hand when a ref threw a flag
You indeed post this. I thought I had replied to it honestly.
I can see some of those, but I can see part of them being a localized/power-privilege/your experience not a universally American experience.
For example, concerning respect and courtesy:
or
For example, people putting others before themselves
https://www.history.com/news/interstate-highway-system-infrastructure-construction-segregation
According to Archer, highway engineers came to think of “killing two birds with one stone” to “improve traffic conditions and remove undesirable populations.
race not important to you? maybe you have daughters or granddaughters?
Remember what was legal in the USA until the 1970s?
Oregon v. Rideout helped end it.
Yes, I am referring to marital/spousal RAPE being LEGAL during the time you grew up.
OK, your dad wasn't a rapist, that's great. Many were. And even those who weren't rapists... might have been encouraged to pursue this sort of "behavioral therapy" on their wives. I mean hell, it was even glorified as comedy in the movies.
And speaking of movies, we won't get into the whole avenue of blackface/redface/etc .... will we...?
One last thing, if racism and sexism and rape and wife-beating don't bother you,
do you really miss THIS
HOW???? Really? You can't miss .... THAT can you?
Concerning kids behaving and respect,
how much was because THIS was allowed ?
Concerning cheap gas,
that was a direct consequence of : growing the military industrial complex to prop up and protect our puppets installed via Operation Ajax in the Iranian Coup, the house of Saud through its tumult, etc. When you see the backlash and oppression these issues created as a consequence, it sure seems like a thinking of and putting of "me" first and not of "everyone else". Imagine being a woman in Iran since the Revolution, etc. Sure you were a kid and didn't cause those issues, but romanticizing about the price while ignoring its actual externalities upon everyone else seems contrary to one of the very things you say is now "missing". ?
Speaking of the military industrial complex and things that should NOT be missed, how about (and I won't post them out of decorum) photos of for example the burning napalmed girl in Vietnam? or the Mai Lay massacre? etc? Do you really miss blunt warfare conducted with minimal to no concern for collateral damage? That is in no way meant to demean the heroic service of many soldiers who were doing their duty, even when mandated (draft) not volunteering. But it was arguably the last of the (USA involved) horrifically brutal brute force war efforts (modern warfare as horrific as it is, being much more tactical and surgical for both the aggressor and the target) .
I'll be the first to admit that yes I intentionally posted some rather provocative comments in response to "THE HAT" , because , as I just said, I learned about this time from books, documentaries, cultural media, and last but not least, 2nd hand stories. Did every person alive then experience ALL (or any) of the terrible things I just posted above? No , of course not. But my questions is--- if you did experience these things, you really miss them? and if you didn't experience them, then realize the America you grew up in is not the america EVERYONE grew up in. What was great for you came at the expense of many others. THAT last bit is really my key issue with the hat. Ignoring or taking that part for granted. Worse- if you don't ignore it, but proudly celebrate and brag that your life was awesome while knowing that it only was so because it hurt other people for it to be awesome, but that's a story for another thread. All I will say is that there are 2 groups in the USA today that hold significant political power; one tries to expand rights, the other tries to rescind rights. And we seem to be set very tribally into those 2 specific groups, the only country in the world really doing so, I guess the USA is exceptional at something after all.
That's enough for now.
I'll wait for more comments telling me that I'm an uneducated paid troll who should just kill "itself" since I'm only here to ruin your day.
/PS one thing you absolutely did have better back then than now. You could teach all those things in history class in any state, IF your school / district approved it. In 2024 many states, as you know, it will likely be illegal to even teach that slavery existed !
