CallMeAl I believe that's total distance not carry? Yes/no? Does PRGR calculate smash factor?

    injim yea, they used to say 2.5 yards per mph SS, but now they're down to 2.4 I believe and that's on perfect hits. I figure I'm around 90 so that would get me about 220 which is about right gets me about 230-240. Hit exactly one drive this year that got to 251, woo hoo!

    CallMeAl
    I guess it depends which of those numbers they are measuring and which they are calculating.
    But the smash factor is way off. 132/83 = 1.59, and that's too high. Actually, impossible unless you are using an illegal driver.

    If the 83 is right, your ball speed should be 120 or so. Your carry should be well under 200 and I would think that with roll, you'd be a bit above 200.

    What do you get on the course?

    scotts33
    How many 90 MPH swings do you see get 221 carry? I think it would take the very best AoA, pure hit, best launch and spin to get that. Maybe I am wrong.

    I'm afraid to measure mine. It was low 90s a couple of winters ago, but I am pretty sure it's into the 80s now.

      scotts33
      The numbers for 100 swing speed look like mine now, and I suspect it's accurate.
      Also, the numbers for 110 are slightly above what mine used to be.
      :/

        DonM How many 90 MPH swings do you see get 221 carry?

        Seems a lil high but other speeds seem good reality.

        Right now total distance with mid-summer burned out fairways cut tight is much longer than when a wet lush grass spring conditions.

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          Eguller When you know it is getting to be a problem is when your 'gaps' start shrinking -

          Yep, driver=3wood=7wood. Just carry driver and a 9 wood.......

          scotts33
          I envy your baked out conditions. They water the heck out of our courses in the summer. Not getting much roll.

          Machine golf is not really playing golf. Your driving is all about what you do on the 14 holes you tee it up( assuming the average 4 par 3’s per course). 14 balls between 190 and 220 on or close to the fairway will give you a good day. 3 at 260, 3 in the water, 3 in the woods, 2 ob and 3 in deep rough will be a disaster.

            Tinker 14 balls between 160 and 180 on or close to the fairway will give you a good day from the forward tees.

            Fixed it. 😂

            The "Distance Creep" gets more rapid once you hit 70 years old. I don't know how far I THOUGHT I hit it before, but I first got a Garmin Golf GPS when I was around that age. I was in shock the first time I measured what I thought was a well hit drive and found that it was not even 220 yards! Now, at almost 75 years old, I have practically quit checking (although it is useful to know if, God forbid, you have a forced carry over a water hazard off the tee!). I played Friday, and measured the two drives that I thought I "pured." They finished at a disappointing 195 and 197. Geez....I'd like to think I can still hit a ball 200 yards, but it is what it is! That's why I play the senior tees on most holes anymore (about 350 yards is as far back as I can play for a par 4 anymore; 180 for a par 3). Otherwise, the only clubs I would need would be my driver, fairway woods and wedges!!

              fatshot The "Distance Creep" gets more rapid once you hit 70 years old. I don't know how far I THOUGHT I hit it before, but I first got a Garmin Golf GPS when I was around that age. I was in shock the first time I measured what I thought was a well hit drive and found that it was not even 220 yards! Now, at almost 75 years old, I have practically quit checking (although it is useful to know if, God forbid, you have a forced carry over a water hazard off the tee!). I played Friday, and measured the two drives that I thought I "pured." They finished at a disappointing 195 and 197. Geez....I'd like to think I can still hit a ball 200 yards, but it is what it is! That's why I play the senior tees on most holes anymore (about 350 yards is as far back as I can play for a par 4 anymore; 180 for a par 3). Otherwise, the only clubs I would need would be my driver, fairway woods and wedges!!

              At age 70 your discussion of distance creep is right on. I noticed a big loss of distance particularly in my irons two years ago and it keeps progressing each year. It is happening to all of my friends as well. We find our tee shots from the gold tees far behind where we used to hit them from the tips what seems like only a few years ago. Some of our par 4's are still too long because of the terrain so we move up to a designated spot in the fairway and tee it up there and we still have about 130 or more in after the tee shot. We are just trying to keep it fun for us.

                Rickochet Some of our par 4's are still too long because of the terrain so we move up to a designated spot in the fairway and tee it up there and we still have about 130 or more in after the tee shot.

                We do the same thing....I don't mind playing a 340-350 yard par 4 once in a while at this point....but I don't need to play 280 yarders YET (that day will come soon enough, I guess!). And I agree with you 100%....it's all about having fun with your buds and still playing something resembling a decent game of golf...!

                scotts33

                seems like a reasonable chart, my SS is 100-105 and the numbers jive although my iron distances are More in line with the 110 SS column, likey because AP1 's have stronger lofts. My previous 2 Ping sets would coincide with the chart