DonM I'll be interested to hear what you think of that hybrid. I'm seriously thinking about ditching my 8 and maybe 9 iron

    garyt1957 fatshot I absolutely love the old Adam's A12 OS hybrids.

    Already have 2 of them! The 6 worked well for 2-3 years, until it became a hook machine.....no idea why.... The 5 is just OK for me...no better or worse than any other hybrid. Lately I've been experimenting with some higher lofted fairway woods, like @Scotts33 suggests.

        fatshot Lately I've been experimenting with some higher lofted fairway woods,

        Me too. Built a set of 7-8-9-pw-sw Heater hybrids but they're SO light, like 240 grams for a 7H compared to the normal 270. I like that they are all the same size though.
        edit: oops I see now you said FW's not hybrids.

          garyt1957 I will choke up on my driver to the very end of the grip to avoid teeing off with a 3 wood.

          Off the tee I choke down a bit on driver, 3/4 backswing and saw off the finish. More of a 12-9 o clock swing and it hits a low bullet dead straight. Normal tee height

            scotts33

            scotts33 Senior males as they lose distance with shorter playing length mid-irons with jacked up lofts (don't have high enough club head speed with an average playing length 5i 38"/loft 23 - 25 deg. or a 6i of modern variation) as an example)

            Scots33, in your experience then, what's the lowest loft # that a normal senior can handle in a middle iron....?
            Asking for a 78 year old friend......🤣 🤣 🤣

                30* KE4 Max was not enough loft for me. I could play it, but it was not much use. I did not have the loft checked so it could have been lower actual. Back to 32* in the STi2 and the flight is perfect. It seems odd 2* of loft would make that much difference but it did. With the 34* KE4 Max 8i it goes high and straight. I could easily have the lofts tweaked in the current set 32* - 48* to take an iron out, IMO 5* of separation would suit me fine. Next club up from 7i is a 26* hybrid!

                Reshafted a L1.XW 52* with an s400 8i shaft (shimmed a .355) and have same model 60* that I ordered new and put in same shaft. I have never technically tried the 8i spinner trick like this, but have ordered wedge specific shafts which may be the same concept. I have the 56* with a TT Spinner Wedge+ model in which tracks at about the same weight as the 8i s400 shaft.

                Anybody ever try the Integra I-Win single length hybrids?

                LogicalOne Unfortunately, I don’t have any options at this time. Sorry. 😞

                Gotcha, I'm just wondering would less tipping work? Tip a 9iron like an 8 iron?

                    garyt1957 I've done this with several shafts/builds, steel & graphite. iirc, 'they' say that is just 1 soft step. 'They' also say it would take 2 soft steps to equal a full flex. Never done the 2 though, just always added a tip weight to help things along. 2-3g.
                    And it has always worked as I wanted.

                        garyt1957

                        I feel that for 98% of folks, soft-stepping an R to an A with the LogicalOne graphite iron shaft wouldn’t hurt anything/would be fine.