What did you build today?

DonM · 2020-01-24T22:58:56+00:00

I'll start. Vertex AW on SK Fiber TT75R shaft. Cleveland Launcher HB 5W on UST 55 Gold R shaft.

Spuzz

This sums up what is wrong with OEMs and their marketing BS.
What a joke.
https://golf.com/gear/wedges/new-wedge-groove-designs/

Sparky

Spuzz
18 more yards of backspin!

Spuzz

Sparky
The words "new" and "groundbreaking" are used in this article, like the target audience is 12 years old or something.

candukid

Neglect to mention the fact that this will probably only be noticeable to the top .1% of golfers, IF it actually works.

sdandrea1

candukid The problem these days with components is the price. When I can get a year old OEM driver for a third of the new price, I’m in. A good component head is 150 bucks. Add a shaft etc and you are now spending more. And then try to sell it.
i picked up my 4 SM6 vokeys for about $180 US total. I got my GMax and a 3w g400 for about $300 US. Components can’t compete. My sterlings cost me well over 450. I shoulda bought a set of cobras used

That argument is irrefutable. Cost recovery is always worse on component. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE OEMs HAVE BRAINWASHED THE MARKET!!!!! 😀

Eguller

sdandrea1 That argument is irrefutable. Cost recovery is always worse on component. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE OEMs HAVE BRAINWASHED THE MARKET!!!!! 😀

It would be interesting to see the numbers crunched, broken down on a $500 OEM driver. How much goes
into materials, how much in research, how much in pro sponsorship. advertising, etc....

ptjn1201

True, but it just means there are some good used component clubs out there dirt cheap

sdandrea1

Eguller

I've discovered a new category to me. Store brands. This Tommy Armour driver has a Project X Even Flo, carbon top, cup face and is adjustable. I think they were $399 for about 10 minutes and then they were giving them away at Dicks. Mine is longer than my 2018 Cobra. Makes you wonder about the cost model . No pro sponsors, very little advertising, etc.

Par4QC

sdandrea1 I've got a new Epic Flash, which I've only hit a handful of times. I've also got an M3 & Cobra F9 Speedback, both unhit. I've also got about 12 other drivers. So far, none have proven better than the $27 driver I built...SMT Indio, DTG shaft, Lamkin grip. Played it for 2-3 years, so far, with others passing through that thought they would be top dog. All irons, so far, follow the same pattern....the Infiniti KO clubs are still in play, unless these Rogues play the same or better. Right now, it all feels like wasted money. BUT....they are shiny and new. 😂

Spuzz

sdandrea1 Tommy Armor

You got a fake there, of a Chinese open model fake.
LOL

KCee

sdandrea1 I keep wanting to buy the driver and 3 wood because they're so darn cheap! I wish they would just sell out already!

HybridWood

Spuzz Even better would have been Tommie Armor 🤣

johnnydoom

Spuzz You got a fake there, of a Chinese open model fake.
LOL

Did you notice that the colour was off or something.🙂

Spuzz

HybridWood Tommie Armor

That's who Tommy Armor copied from.

sdandrea1

johnnydoom Did you notice that the colour was off or something.🙂

All I have noticed is my drives being equal to or farther than my playing partner formerly known as "the guy who out drives me all the time with his Epic Flash". 😁 BTW, it's spelled correctly on my driver. 🤣

fatshot

Components vs. OEM....

I hate to admit it, b/c I've been a "component guy" for 30+ years, but in thinking back, the BEST clubs I have ever played have been those OEM clubs I have bought after being fitted. I have to admit that, even though I've read a lot of Maltby's and Tom Wishon's writings on the subject, I don't have a lot of sophisticated equipment to work with (I have
a loft and lie machine, swingweight scale, etc. but no reliable way of measuring and matching shaft flex or frequency). That limits me to a being "cut and glue" guy. I am awed and impressed by what a lot of the guys on this board know about club building that I don't.

The best set of irons I've ever had were the Callaway XR16 Cup Face set I had several years ago. When their regular flex shafts got to be too stiff for me, I should have had them reshafted with Senior flex....instead I sold them..... dumb move on my part.....my next purchase will be a similar set only with Senior shafts. I just bought a used Ping G
SF Tec driver and tried it for the first time today......I KILLED that thing and seem to have gained 10-15 yards (more
on a couple!) compared to my Geek DCT I bought here and built for myself. I just think the R & D departments
that the OEM's have have done more to advance the technology of clubs, whereas many of the components
(Maltby and Wishon are exceptions, IMO) are not as good in their designs.

When I look at my bag, I'm playing 7 OEM clubs (woods and hybrids) and 6 components (Acer irons and Maltby wedges). As I said, I'll eventually find the set of Callaway irons l want, and then the numbers will be 10 OEM's
and only 3 components. While I will always enjoy tinkering with clubs and trying to refit something I buy at PIAS
to suit me, at long last I've learned my limitations!!

DonM

What he said. ^^^

fatshot

DonM
I guess my weakness at "clubmaking" is that I am definitely NOT a fitter. Don't have any tools like
a launch monitor, etc. to use to take advantage of the science and technology that is out there. So I can only "fit"
myself by trial and error. I should have learned by now that once I find clubs that really "work" for me,
I should hang on to them....

Sparky

fatshot
I'm lucky in that regard. My office is 1 mile from the local PGA Tour Superstore. $99 buys an annual pass to use their launch monitors for 30 minutes per day. Makes for a perfect lunchtime self-clubfitting opportunity. However, now the store is pickup only, and there is a high probability that my office will be closed and we will all work from home which is too far for frequent PGATSS access.

sdandrea1

fatshot I guess my weakness at "clubmaking" is that I am definitely NOT a fitter. Don't have any tools like
a launch monitors, etc. to use to take advantage of the science and technology that is out there. So I can only "fit"
myself by trial and error. I should have learned by now that once I find clubs that really "work" for me,
I should hang on to them....

We're twins........

KCee

fatshot That's why I started using a fitter again. It's fun to fit yourself, but it can be expensive. Even for just a driver I know what loft works for me, what club length, weight, et al, but there are so many shafts and not enough profile info. I go to the fitter and I can try a bunch of shafts and see what the #'s are. And if he doesn't get the fit quite right the first time, he fixes it. If I ever retire and have more free time then maybe I will go back to fitting myself. I do miss the "hunt".

DonM

fatshot I have the tools and knowledge to build good component irons that fit me pretty darn well. But woods and hybrids, I have been finding that OEM stuff is too good, and the shaft universe is too darn big and expensive, to be doing much in the way of self fitting and building with components. So for woods I'm in the camp of buy it, try it. Always pre owned clubs, though. When I have gone to professional fittings, the results have not held up, unfortunately.

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