KCee I'm like PA-PLAYA in that when I buy a vehicle I pretty much expect to own it through the duration of its useful life. They are junkers when I trade them in or sell them, so I wasn't considering resale value in the equation. Your comment about the used BMW cars is correct. There were many slightly used BMW's available at very good prices, but like other things, I couldn't talk my wife into a sedan. She was focused on an SUV and I couldn't get her to be flexible.

    Yeah I keep my cars too long to worry about trade-in value. If I sell the TL myself the amount will probably cover taxes and reg lol. I've bought both new and used cars over the last 35 years or so. I like buying new and getting exactly what you want, but a 3 year old car with miles left on the warranty is like half the price of a new one.

    2 months later

    Finally may have found a car. Got a 2016 BMW 328i GT Xdrive being transferred to CarMax Hartford. Not that far away, but I'm told it may take a couple of weeks. Drove a similar one at a dealership and liked it. It's larger than a regular 3 series and also has a hatchback. Has AWD, but gets better mileage than my current ride. The original owner loaded it with option packages.

      KCee Wow, my wife found the same thing last night and was asking me about it. My only thought was BMW = Broke My Wallet. They can be amazing cars, I hope you update us on this one.

      I had a beautiful 5 series, loved it, but the repair bill was OBNOXIOUS and then the damn thing kept falling into “limp mode” where it wouldn’t go over 30 mph, had to restart it and it would usually fix itself. Got quoted 12k for a new transmission, for a car worth about $18k at the time (only 50k on it), took a hard pass and traded it for the biggest pile of shit I could have bought, the VW Passat TDI, great mileage, HORRIBLY uncomfortable. I thought it was just a bit stiff because it was new, thank God for the buy back on them, I was on that as soon as I could.

      BMWs are super nice, but to be honest, after my experience, I don’t know if I’d go used without the certification and extended warranty from BMW. On that same note, Mercedes has an AWESOME certified program, unlimited mileage warranty, really a great deal if you drive a lot. It almost bought one based solely on that.

          DC300 OBNOXIOUS

          Nothing is more rare than turn signals on a BMW, so I'm told.
          😉

              Spuzz I’m told the only difference between a BMW and a porcupine is the pricks are on the outside with the porcupine...

                meagain My wife works at a dealership. Go make a final deal on last day of the month. That determines their bonuses for that month.

                We did that on my wife's Accord, and it definitely helped.

                  meagain It's a Chevy Dealership, she's the warranty administrator. I bought a Mazda. Does that tell you anything?

                  It tells me her boss probably doesn't think very well of you, haha.
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                      sdandrea1 Ford is the only domestic brand I'd buy today, but the Japanese make such a tight, reliable vehicle now. I do miss my Ford Flex. The ultimate golf wagon

                      I have liked Fords. But I've seen them treat owners very badly in the past 10-15 years when it comes to making good on major engineering flubs. Like their diesel pickups. And their dual clutch auto-manual trans in the Fiesta and Focus. I have personal experience with that fiasco.

                      As a result, it would take a lot for me to consider another Ford.

                          DonM It tells me her boss probably doesn't think very well of you, haha.

                          They don't know about it. She would be fired.

                            DC300 Yeah I've never owned a BMW, Mercedes or Audi, but lusted after them. I've had 2 Acuras, but didn't really care for the recent ones and Consumer Reports says they are much less reliable than they were. The 328 is being transferred and I may be able to check it out Tuesday night. I drove a similar one and really liked it. This one has all the bells and whistles and the price was reasonable.

                            I was pretty close to buying a 2016 Mercedes E350. Beautiful car and man it drove nice. Never really liked Mercedes before, but it was nice. Unfortunately I thought the asking price was a bit high and then the BMW popped up. I've heard all German cars are big $$ to repair, but we'll see. My brother is a mechanic and so I don't get burned on repairs and he gets parts at a discount.

                              DonM If a person reads the stickers on the windows of the Fords, they will soon realize they are NOT a domestic car. Parts come from 3-4 different countries,(typically U.K, U.S, & Mexico) and final assembly is in 2 different countries(usually 2-3 different cities in U.S, or Mexico).....for same models!

                              Good to see them axing heads this a.m..

                                SWMBO sold the 1965 C2 Corvette. We had it stored at a classic car dealer for the winter and we got an offer that was too good. She wants a daily driver with modern features in a convertible so...........

                                2019 C300 Cabriolet. It was LESS than the Vette cost. I love this woman.😘

                                  sdandrea1 That’s a beauty, still not as sexy as the vette to me........but I’m not the one paying for it. Looks like a lot of fun though and I hope y’all have a great time in it. If you should decide you need something with more Ping-like functionality I’ll trade you a nice, only slightly used Frontier🙃.