Non-Traditional Golf Swing Discussion

scotts33 · 2018-09-08T18:16:05+00:00

Since, there seems some interest in non-traditional methods of the golf swing. Here are 3 that I have tried or used. There are more but these three I feel...

Spuzz

scotts33 I know Steve doesn't use them.

So do I and that was my point.
I now have visual evidence why urethane doesn't make a difference to him
🙂

"there is not much wrist cock, lag, release."
and written evidence as well
LOL

scotts33

Spuzz So do I and that was my point.
I now have visual evidence why urethane doesn't make a difference to him
🙂

"there is not much wrist cock, lag, release."
and written evidence as well
LOL

Most golfers with below 90 mph driver SS need more spin and loft for better carry so Steve is attacking this correctly IMO and I fall into the same category. There are actually more rec golfers that are using the wrong equipment specs. including ball than the correct equipment. Case in point have fitted 3 golfers last week from 48 to 56 years old.....all have driver SS lower than 90 with early to medium release and various tempos. All were playing urethane and shaft flexes that don't "fit" them correctly. That's the norm not the outlier. Just sayin'. 😉

Spuzz

scotts33 That's the norm not the outlier. Just sayin'

Completely agree.

sdandrea1

I'm just trying to get the ball into the cup in the fewest strokes possible. I try to keep my swing and course mgmnt simple. I still don't like looking at my swing, but my scorecard gets me over it. Proud of my 10.2 handicap!

Spuzz

sdandrea1 Proud of my 10.2 handicap!

and you should be!
I am not being critical, just making a Spuzzervation ®
🙂

rsvman

sdandrea1 Absolutely! About the 65th percentile of all golfers who keep a handicap. That's pretty darned good.

fatshot

sdandrea1
We're in the same ballpark, Steve......In fact, I shot my best round in two years today (75!) to bring my hcp. down
to 10.3 on an online handicap website. (Sorry for the threadjack for my shameless boast, but had to tell someone
besides Mrs. Fatshot!!) In fact, I came within two shots of shooting my age!

Eguller

sdandrea1 I still don't like looking at my swing, but my scorecard gets me over it.

Who really cares what the swing looks like. I played with a guy once who made Wolff's swing
look like grace personified and he rarely shot over par. He told me " I don't have to look at it -
you do !! Solid hit is a solid hit. As you said - ball in the cup.

sdandrea1

Spuzz i know. 😉

mikeintopeka

rsvman Absolutely! About the 65th percentile of all golfers who keep a handicap. That's pretty darned good.

In case anyone else is curious of where your game falls among all golfers that maintain a handicap, hit the linky:

https://www.usga.org/handicapping/handicap-index-statistics/mens-handicap-index-statistics-d24e6096.html

I have always thought a person that usually breaks 90 was better than average but a 12.0 - 12.9 is about the average golfer that maintains a handicap according to the USGA.

sdandrea1

fatshot

Nice round! When I tell SWMBO about my scores, she says (without looking up), "that's nice honey"...... and she's a golfer!

DonM

fatshot Sweet. What went right?

fatshot

sdandrea1
At least mine looked away from the TV long enough to "glance" at my scorecard......!

garyt1957

Eguller Who really cares what the swing looks like. I played with a guy once who made Wolff's swing
look like grace personified and he rarely shot over par. He told me " I don't have to look at it -
you do !! Solid hit is a solid hit. As you said - ball in the cup.

I'd actually love to have a really weird swing IF I had the game to go with it. I think it would be fun to play with people and they're jaw drops when you swing and then you throw a 79 at them.

fatshot

DonM
Short Game!!! I chipped and putted better than I have all season. Got up and down 7 out of 10 times, and
took only 28 putts! I just put my old Odyssey Rossie II back in the bag, and I've putted much better for the last 3 weeks since it's back in there!! Driver....? Meh. Fairway woods....? The same. From the 5 hybrid on down, I hit it pretty well. I also decided to stick with the Jim Venetos swing instead of running off in new directions.....

scotts33

Best Driver Swing for Seniors-Danny Maude

Danny posted this today and this is basically how I swing the driver and varies from modern traditional swing. It has some JV similarities but more movement than JV and takes some Easiest points with the release changed to fit the swing. Produces some nice draws for distance challenged seniors. IMO it's a good variation for golfers with less ability to turn ala seniors. Worth a look.

fatshot

scotts33
Some good thoughts here, Scott; and some things I have had success with in the past, and forgotten
about from one season to another. Thanks for the reminder...one of the many reasons I enjoy this
forum.....!

scotts33

Thought I would add this as I have come across a number of students and teachers that state....."It's my way or the highway and every other golf swing method or swing technique is wrong and incorrect.....my swing method is the ONLY way a golfer will be successful" .

That kind of thinking is total BS and I shrink away from any golf swing that states that. To many know it alls in the golf teaching profession IMO. It's proven by watching various highly skilled pro's or low hdcp. golfers from 15 to 85 that any kind of swing can work for an individual.

IMO you build a swing that works for an individual. Just as you custom fit and build golf equipment around an individual golfer and their swing. Golf swings and golf equipment are not "one size fits all" that many profess.

My rant for the day.

fatshot

scotts33
Agreed, Scott.......any game that has had champions with swings as unconventional as Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino, Jim Furyck, and Cal Peete and have them be just as successful as "classic" swingers like Davis Love, Adam Scott,
and many many more disproves those kinds of statements!

mikeintopeka

scotts33 "It's my way or the highway and every other golf swing method or swing technique is wrong and incorrect.....my swing method is the ONLY way a golfer will be successful" .

We figured out our former golf pro trumpeted this with members for no other reason than 'his way' always took at least 4 or 5 lessons to learn at $xx per pop. Ka Ching.

sdandrea1

In my everlasting quest to stop coming over the top and find my old swing that used to be in a solid plane that launched the ball high straight and with some spin, I shopped YouTube and found Jim Venetos (again). I merely tried his setup position today with my shoulders turned inward, closed stance and front-loaded weight. Here we go again. Solid and long ball striking. Trapping/compressing the ball. It's very weird feeling. It's almost like my back is turned to the target. I had best results with the ball forward in my stance, same spot for all clubs. Strange. I think I might actually be loading the shaft a little. This swing def has more wrist action. Shot 77 with no doubles and 2 birdies using my Eye 2 irons, Cobra hybrids and driver.

fatshot

sdandrea1
Nice playing Steve! I've been using the Venetos swing for about 3 years now, and it's provided me with the best combination of ball striking while still saving my painful old back. I agree that it felt a little weird when I first started trying it, but you get used to it.....esp. when you see that ball going straight down the middle!! PS....I still do come over the top with it though....

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