Non-Traditional Golf Swing Discussion

scotts33 · 2018-09-08T18:16:05+00:00

Since, there seems some interest in non-traditional methods of the golf swing. Here are 3 that I have tried or used. There are more but these three I feel...

pellmell

Sneakylong Bubba's swing is unconventional

I don't consider Bubba's swing unconventional. You have no idea what I'm talking about.

Sneakylong

pellmell

And I don't care to know. I'll go toe to toe on swing theory with you anytime.

garyt1957

You want unconventional? How 'bout this swing?

garyt1957

God, I love this stuff!

rsvman

That's a frickin' ugly swing! Holy crap!

Tinker

Sneakylong there’s no such thing as trolling. A discussion isn’t a discussion if you can’t present opposing views.

Sneakylong

Tinker

It would help if you educated yourself on the subject before criticizing.

Tinker

Sneakylong educate on what, goofy band aid ways to swing a golf club? I know the proper way to swing a club . I have taught more people to swing a club than you could imagine.

scotts33

Bill Phillips Channel Lock posted this...this morning. Now, I understand the protocol and alignment better. This should help those that don't have this down.

Sneakylong

scotts33

I saw this video this morning and was wondering if you guys had asked Bill about this (ball going right). What you'll also see is JH doing more videos on different 'atomic particles' (things people may want to incorporate in their swing).
JH has a history of trying different things regarding the swing.

rsvman

I was watching Inbee Park yesterday and she has a very interesting swing. It's ugly, to be sure, but she makes a particular move in the transition from the backswing to the downswing that I think is interesting.

I'm kinda surprised that nobody has a YouTube channel promoting the "Inbee swing" or the "Inbee move."

Maybe I should do it, lol.

johnnydoom

rsvman Whoa! I never really looked at her swing closely before. She takes it almost vertical with what looks to be a very strong grip and upright stance. It looks like her arms are moving almost independently from her body turn if I'm interpreting what I see right. Must have some amazing ability to time that.

Thanks for pointing her swing out. No way I can get that turn with that kind of stance, but cool to see her do that.

garyt1957

rsvman I think Trahan has used her as an example of a vertical swinger like he teaches

KCee

Tinker That sounds like my go to swing as well. I normally hit a draw, but when that's on the fritz I will switch to hitting a straight or little push cut. I stand a bit open and try to make a 1/2 to 3/4 swing and punch the ball. I did this almost the whole round one of the few times I broke 80. It's basically the same swing thought I have for longer pitch shots. I think it's effective because I don't have much if any wrist break....and I don't over swing.

I feel like my swing changes from one round to the next so I can't imagine trying to learn a "new" swing. I think we're all trying to find that feeling that lets us put the club on the ball decently. Unfortunately I can never keep that feeling for very long and the fixes don't last long either. Maybe if I played more......but probably not even then.

pigaman

Sneakylong Hi Sneaky
I'm a follower of CL and Bill Phillips and JH and have had decent results using CL. I'm a high handicapper with a bad slice and could never hit a draw in my 10 years of golf. JH is a golf savant and could hit good shots with a broomstick on one leg. Bill Phillips is a very good teacher and has boiled down all the hours of JH CL instruction to bite-sized nuggets that you can apply to your swing.
CL has cured my slice, no question. I never hit a draw till CL. For me, it simplified the golf swing. Ball off the back foot, aim a little left with the feet, back cock the shoulders so they are down the line or a little across the line, and take the club back along the shoulder line and swing down along the shoulder line keeping the shoulders closed till impact. Sounds like a lot, but it's pretty simple.

Having said all that, you won't get the total results in 1-2 range sessions, especially if you have been playing a long time. I've put a lot of time into this method (about a year) and am now getting comfy with it. Here's a link to My CL channel. have fun with it. I'm not the most graceful critter on two legs!
https://www.youtube.com/user/pigaman1/featured?view_as=subscriber

Cherrs FJ

garyt1957

pigaman What kind of wedge is that? You called it a gunslinger? Looks like you're well on the way with the swing.

Sneakylong

pigaman

Nice going FJ. I'm unable to commit to CL right now. I play 3 times a week in a senior Quota game and have chronic elbow and neck issues and cannot devote the range time necessary to work on CL. However, ironically I have adopted the gunslinger position with my right arm (pit of right elbow facing out) with very good results in my ball striking.

I'm a 10 capper and shot a 77 (par 71) with my conventional swing yesterday. 🙂 Great ball striking day also. I can hit a draw with my driver and woods, but don't hit draws with my irons. This is what attracted me to CL. I struggle with my upper body opening up too soon in the downswing. CL's closed shoulder / in to out path should work to alleviate that issue like it has with you.

A guy who played in our Quota group a few years ago had an all hybrid iron set. He had them because they were shank proof. 😉 Glad to see you found a method that is working for you. I enjoy JH and Bill's video's also and will continue following the CL journey with them even if I can't devote the time to do it myself as of now.

pigaman

garyt1957 Hi Garyt
My irons are all hybrids SW-3. I do have a set of Cobra single length knock-offs, but can't get used to the longer length of the SW-7 irons distance wise. Plus I've been using the hybrids for 10 years now. Very hard to change. The "gunslinger" refers to the address position with the elbows held in close to the body so that with the back cocked shoulders, all you have to do is take the club straight back, because it is already in the channel at address. I know, it's a lot of words to explain something that's pretty simple.

Cheers FJ

rsvman

Pigaman, I have a simple idea about why you couldn't ever hit a draw before. Your grip is incredibly weak. Did you try strengthening it before you ended up trying this swing?

pigaman

rsvman Hi rsvman
Yep, I tried all different grips and variations in my journey. The stronger grip caused release problems for me. I am using a neutral grip, thumbs down the middle of the shaft with 10 finger arrangement. Camera angle may have skewed the view of the grip.
Yeah, JH is a "tinkerer" of the highest magnitude. That's his golf passion. He will prolly move on to the next theory that strikes his interest. Thanks for the comment, all info is welcomed.

garyt1957

I remember when JH first came out with CL and he was so sold on it he was going to quit all his other swing vids and just devote his time to CL. I thought then that was going to be hard for him. Now I see he's trying CL ala Moe, ala this and ala that. He just can't stop tinkering, lol.

Sneakylong

Thank for the shout out Bill.

garyt1957

Sneakylong Golfbuzz goes global!!!

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