Par4QC An asshole would have let us know long ago why he hit that tree.

Nicely stated.

There are a number of things I believe folks neglect to mention, about Tiger - sorta like that comment above. While maybe he was more an ass than we know in his private life, he had the discretion to be so. Perhaps we actually less than we know, think, or speculate. But, who of us does not have some things we've done, known only to a select few others (perhaps good friends) of which we'd like none broadcast? Yeah, he has acted like a dick now and again. And, as a polarizing kind of figure (athlete/star), it's not as if every eye or camera was focused on him - not. I like the way he's tended to carry himself of late. I observe him far more humble.

      professor

      I believe it is taking everything he has to project to others that he has changed. Is he good for golf- absolutely! But I do not have to like him.

          professor Agree, Prof. I just finished reading the unauthorized biography that is out now. His childhood and upbringing seems to explain a lot. No excuse but the public seems to enjoy it when a celeb hits the rocks. He seems to have developed a better attitude toward others, his family and golf.

            PA-PLAYA

            The same talent as Tiger? I suppose it’s plausible that it was all drive, but I’m just not buying it. You don’t have the Tiger vs the Field odds if you aren’t obscenely talented.

              It's all about ratings and money. Look what Tiger has done to viewership this season. Like Tiger or not he is good for business. Unless he gets hurt or totally steps on his dick in the next few weeks I wouldn't be surprised he gets a Captain's pick. And you can't tell me the industry isn't putting some heat on Furyk behind the scenes.

                Rickochet I presume if he wants to play Ryder Cup then he’s in. Same with Phil for that matter. No way two of best ever don’t get picked while they are still relevant unless they really jacked-over Furyk in the past.

                  Par4QC it was a 3w and an iron off the tee that cost him in Rd 4.

                    I see Tiger as a really good player like a lot of other really good players, so I think he can win again, and maybe a major. But so what? Tiger has always been about 19 majors, nothing less. If he can't win 5, or at least 4 it's meaningless. Sure, it's a nice comeback story, but he'll still leave golf with a big old "What if?".

                    Because Tiger never really opens up in interviews it's hard to say what he wants out of this comeback. Personally I think he's really trying to see if he can get it back and win 5 more majors. It may sound ludicrous to us, but I see that as what's driving him. I just can't see Tiger putting in all this work to be #9 in the world and win a tournament or two, even if one's a major. It doesn't fit his personality, imo.


                    The only other thing I could see is it's all about the money. He knows he needs to play and play pretty well to keep his brand going. And if youy're going to say "He already has more money than he'll ever need" you just don't understand rich people.

                      In the world of golf,like him or hate him,Tiger is STILL" the straw that stirs the drink"!
                      Look at the responses here.
                      If you want a thread that has some interest/action....just put 'Tiger' in the title.
                      It's a formula that NEVER fails!

                      As to some of the "if's",yeah I think he wins again,maybe even a major or two.
                      He just needs to re-learn how to win and get out of his own way.
                      He's got all the tools/skills,but his mindset needs a reboot...and go dig up that killer instinct you used to have.

                      I think he's swinging well enough to win again. Putting is always something that every player needs to win; he's not putting like he was, but probably still good enough to win. I think he needs to find that confidence that allowed him to avoid all those bogeys he should have made but didn't. You could look at Tiger's tee shots in a round and think " he must have shot at least a couple over", but he somehow shot a couple under.

                      He also needs to come into Sunday with at least a several shot lead. Tiger has never been a come-from-behind player. He'd play 2 great rounds and grind out a score and have the lead on Sunday and then would increase the lead or find a way to hold everyone off.

                      I think he can still win tournaments and majors, but it's hard to say if he actually will. I doubt he is playing just to get Top 10's and make money. I'm sure he would love to get a win so he could sneer at the journalists that said he couldn't. I'm sure he'd also love to hoist a trophy with his kids there.

                        garyt1957 I do believe that winning 5 more majors is still his biggest desire, but I think he's really trying to get his life back on track and take the opportunity to repent and win back some respect. Perhaps it is just hopeful thinking on my part, but I believe his comeback is as much about trying to put his past behind him and get purpose for the life that is still ahead of him. I think he's trying to get his income rolling again and ease up the pressure on his kids and family that also suffer by association to his past. I don't think he'll be bitter if he doesn't win another major as long as he can establish a reputation as someone who overcame his failings with responsibility and perseverance.

                          KCee Putting is always something that every player needs to win; he's not putting like he was

                          PA-PLAYA It was his putting.

                          He had to change his putting stance due to the back surgeries, he's said. Anyone that has changed their putting technique, in any way, knows how this plays out, short term. And he has also said he cannot practice as long as he should or needs, so perhaps this will be long term for him. He will never putt like he used to. It's been seen already.

                          The amazing thing is how he has leapfrogged the guys that had been playing well, in the world standings.

                                garyt1957 And if youy're going to say "He already has more money than he'll ever need" you just don't understand rich people.

                                Well, his est. NET worth is 'only' $760M. Given the fact(rumor) he had to give Elin $500M, not so long ago, means he's not going to run dry. Good investments, I'd say.

                                Elin's NET worth is only $200M! 🤔

                                    Par4QC Given the fact(rumor) he had to give Elin $500M
                                    Elin's NET worth is only $200M!

                                    That must have been some kind of shopping spree.
                                    LOL

                                        Spuzz Damn women!😉

                                        But, I've read where the settlement was only $100M. No one will ever know except for them and the atty's.

                                            Par4QC Damn women!😉

                                            Might as well take this completely off track. Just saw this joke on another forum.

                                            My son wanted to know what it's like to be married. I told him to leave me alone and when he did, I asked him why he was ignoring me.

                                              He will probably get to 19 Majors, if he stays healthy. The majors will be 14 on the "regular" tour and 5 on the Senior Tour. Some marketing weenie will come up with a term, like the Tiger Slam, for the accomplishment. If he could back off the driver swing just a tad he would probably score better. I finally realized that I am 72 not 52 anymore. Made a conscious decision to "keep it in play" instead of "how far can I hit the ball". Has resulted in waaay more fairways hit, more greens in regulation, less time in the woods and high rough and lower scores. If Tiger had followed that course of action, by my count his score at the Open would have 7 shots lower than what he ended with.

                                                Par4QC I totally get that. I was fitted for a 32.5" putter 12 years ago and that seemed just right. I got fitted again < 2 years ago and now I have a 34" putter. A full swing never really seemed to bother my back, but stooping over a putt did.

                                                  raggmann54 Backing off to stay in play is a nice theory, what guys who have never had power will never understand is he IS laying off. He is off it to the point where he can still give it a rip and keep everything in sync. Any more backing off and it’s going to get really fudged up and too much probably results in those hips not getting out of the way in time.

                                                  The thing is the DRIVER isn’t really where he made the biggest mistakes, he screwed up trying to be too cute and too conservative. If he had played to win, instead of not to lose, I think he would have won. That said, that flop shot was the end of him playing to win, then he went on the defensive and pissed it away. Had that shot worked or had he just played the simple shot and gotten to just go putt the damn ball, he may well have won too.

                                                  I believe what Tiger needs is a GREAT caddy in his corner again, one that can say to him “ just get it on the green, make your par and let’s go to the next hole with the lead.” One that can say “don’t change it up now, hit that driver off the left edge and we can make a birdie here.” Instead, I have to believe he has a “yes” man right now. He’s doing all the navigating, the yardage’s, the thoughts, he has to hit 200 shots and think through all of them, it’s not the best strategy. He needs somebody to take the mental load off a bit and let him focus on execution. When/if he gets that, I think he’s going to be great again, if he doesn’t, I don’t know if he can ever get “it” back