Par4QC

Look a little harder. First Google and I got this.

"In tort law, assault and battery are intentional torts that involve “unwanted touching.” Originally, assault and battery were two separate claims: assault involved making someone afraid they were about to suffer an unwanted touch, while battery involved actually touching them. Some U.S. states still separate the two torts, while others have lumped them together into one cause of action."

Unwanted kissing and groping would be considered sexual assault.

      professor you're right professor, I'm wrong for doing that. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

        Sneakylong I can live with that. Unfortunately (for your case), if they let him, then it's not exactly unwanted.

            Sneakylong Also, it's funny that Trumpers aren't interested if what's in the dossier is true or not (and much of it has been proven true).

            What has been proven true in that dossier so far? That document was widely circulated around the press corp and the halls of Congress (McCain). Wasn't it only Buzzfeed that published it in its entirety?

              Sneakylong Fox News is dredging up this old debunked Russian uranium story as a diversion tactic.

              It was the New York Times that published an update on it early last week and Fox ran with it, as did some foreign news outlets. #1 - they originally published a lengthy report on it in 2015 and blew the cobwebs off of it because of #2 - A former FBI informant that was embedded in the uranium dealings finally came out of the dark side and found an attorney to represent him. Under the previous administration's DOJ, they had him sign a Non - Disclosure Agreement (NDA) that he couldn't divulge any details about what he had learned. A federal judge last week ruled the NDA was invalid if he testified before Congress.

              I did find it humorous that of the 'left leaning media' there was an incredible amount of space given to Flake's speech deriding Trump but not one column inch given to the intelligence insider trying to testify.

                The team, of the hopeful Republican running for the nomination, who first hired Steele came up with nothing. Interesting when the Clinton campaign team channeled millions to Christopher Steele he suddenly had all this information for his dossier.

                So after all this time and the spending of 10's of millions of taxpayer dollars to investigate these allegations we discover it was the Clinton campaign using a foreign spy to bring us fabricated dirt.

                Sneakylong You failed to mention that it was a Republican (working for another candidate) that originally hired Steele to do opposition research. But when Trump won the nomination they dropped it. The law firm affiliated with the DNC and Clinton campaign then picked it up and paid Steele to keep investigating.

                It looks like the WaPo has now changed their story: "But as the Washington Post itself reports, the dossier did not exist until after the Democrats hired Fusion GPS".

                  puttnfool I can live with that. Unfortunately (for your case), if they let him, then it's not exactly unwanted

                  Are you serious? Wow...I feel sorry for you...
                  So, a 17 yearold kid leans over the seat and kisses your 14 year old daughter on the face while riding on the bus. She doesn't want it to happen but she let him do it because there was no way out, and he was bigger than her and older. I guess in your world that is not assault because "she let him" and according to your words "then it's not exactly unwanted"

                      candukid First of all, I don't have a 14 year old daughter. Second, my daughter doesn't ride the bus. Third, I have instructed all my kids to never become a victim. Always, always, always defend yourself when wronged. Fourth, you don't have to feel sorry for me. I'm in the best position I've ever been in my life. I live in the greatest country in the world and I just moved to one of the only two states who had every county vote Republican in the last two (and maybe three general elections). I could go on, but you're not getting the point anyway.

                        candukid consent comes into play with minors.....although there are a lot of dipshits that think it's ok if an adult female has sex with a teenage boy, yet don't see the assault, power and control, and damage done as a result. To me that scenario gets at the heart of the double standard. Everyone wants to imagine the hot teacher, blonde bombshell with that skirt breaking in junior, but that isn't reality, not by a long shot. Hard to imagine a scenario where junior wouldn't want it, right? Jr, can't say no, not only because of age, but also because this person knows.jr won't say no because the authority they hold....apply this to just about any scenario minor or not. It's being played out as we speak. This is not a right/left/conservative/liberal thing either!

                            Spuzz @candukid
                            Ignorance and stupid is bliss, my friend.
                            Save your breath.

                            He's right, @candukid. It's better to not speak and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

                                ode Jr, can't say no

                                Not sure why you say that. Anyone, at any time, can say no.

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                                    puttnfool lol, yes, like when I'm asked if I want a copy of my receipt by the grocery store attendant, I say no....or when the abuser asks if it's ok to .... Like Harvey W. Or Bill O. or Bill C. (I suspect he never asked) or add a name in here is asking for sexual favor, see I can expect a result, not always the case when the victim says no. Big difference when you are just out a receipt vs. the very livelihood you depend to pay the bills or whatever your livelihood at that time depends on, a bit harder to say no.

                                    Given the title of the thread I wouldn't expect you to understand!

                                        ode Basically, what it boils down to is that some people have moral lines that they won't cross (i.e. sleeping with someone for job advancement) and some people don't. Maybe the reason you don't understand that is because you'd sleep with someone to get ahead. Me, personally, I'd rather not.

                                          candukid There's no real comparison to a 14 year old on a bus and a grown woman hanging out with billionaires in a social setting. But now I'm curious. What happens to the 17 year old boy? Jail time? Lifetime record as a sexual predator? Can I beat the crap out of him for assaulting my daughter? Not ever allowed to run for public office? Sue his household for emotional damages? Tie him to a lamp post and let the females in the municipality kick him in the crotch repeatedly?