Aerated greens
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That automatic 2 putt sounds like the lazy old geezers that play at our place. 
I had to play in a four ball match on the aerated greens and we ended up doing pretty much what you guys suggested ............ anything under three feet was given, Frustrating playing a match under those conditions though.
Appreciate the suggestions guys!
I completely lose interest if I have to putt on aerated greens, which is why I call pretty much every March to October before I want to play a course! I keep a log of local courses to refer to. I understand it needs to be done so do it and I'll check out your course later.
I was in Ocean City for a few days recently and just about every aerated two weeks before, and I saw some premium prices. I think courses are becoming more transparent about this, but I still get a few courses saying the aeration was already done when I call. When I ask them when sometimes I'll get a last week response. Okay, thanks LOL
This thread needs to note the contribution of www.Greenskeeper.org
The guy that runs the site actually calls courses regularly to get aeration/maintenance schedules, and all of those are posted on the website. So here in SoCal we can just look there and see what courses to avoid. Big thumbs up.
I had a tee time set up for a group of 4... three guys from my club had never played this course, which was private several years ago. Since then they've been sold and was subsequently turned public.
Nice short course... fun short course. Tough greens, lots of tricky greens. Tee shots have to be at a premium to setup the approach shots. I think it's like 6300 yards.
And the greens have always been immaculate. So I was excited to get a few fellow members here to enjoy a change of scenery.
So I make a call, get a reservation. I ask if they aerated, they said that they aerated earlier in the spring, and that the fall aeration would be a month later following our scheduled round there.
Then the greens staff decided that they needed to do a small-tine aeration, because they were hosting a Pro-Am event two weeks later. They called me 5 days out. I was absolutely shocked to hear from them, because so many courses these days seem to keep their aeration schedules more private than public. And they're certainly not gonna call someone ahead of time to inform them that they aerated their greens.
Except this course.
"Mr. France - just called to inform you that we are aerating tomorrow, and that you and your guest will obviously be dealing with punched greens next week. While we would enjoy your business - we also appreciate you wanting to play your round of golf here in good conditions. Please contact us should you wish to cancel. "
I returned the call, and brought 8 guys up there three weeks later to enjoy the golf, the nice course that it is, and it was was great condition three weeks later.
Not that I expect a golf course to call me personally to inform me of maintenance that might influence me to go elsewhere, but when it happens - I make sure I reward that course later on when the conditions are better.
And I feel obligated to give the details of the name of the course: Mahoning Valley Country Club (which is public - anyone can make a time here). It's a very challenging course because of the greens (which are generally perfect) and a fun little course to play.
Still hard to believe that some courses still find it important enough to let their customers know what to expect, even if it ends up costing them business. But then again - I brought them more business.
So if you find yourself in Northeast PA and wanting an enjoyable challenge at a nice course check out Mahoning Valley Country Club.
They usually have the best greens in the region.
All healed up were they? If done right, they should be after 3 weeks. Also depending on what equipment you have available.
mikeintopeka I thought it was interesting the golf village I frequent in Arkansas with my posse sent their aeration schedule for all 6 courses AND are offering discounted fees for the first few days after the work is done. I give them an A++ for this policy change.
Martee I plan on taking two weeks off or find a course that hasn't been aerated.
Oh, so you don't support your normal course when they have to do maintenance? Shame on you! LOL
Sparky My first choice is to avoid those courses until they heal.
Oh, no another guy who wants something for nothing - doesn't finance the course's maintenance fees.
LBlack14 That automatic 2 putt sounds like the lazy old geezers that play at our place.
Wow, even that adjustment to accommodate unpleasant conditions isn't sufficient.
ode Aeration should be noted when making a tee time, whether it be online or call in....at least then a golfer can opt out and be spared some irritation. We only paid 27 to ride.
Another guy who doesn't want to pay his dues for maintenance fees or wants a discounted rate. LOL
Rickochet Unless we get a report about a nice job on aeration we just give it up for the season.
Another selfish, self-serving bastage - this according to those hole -ier than thou.
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Why? Why come on here if your only purpose is to stir shit?
Just came home from visiting my father who is dying of cancer. Within hours of arriving home, learned that a dear friend and golf buddy's son committed suicide over the weekend because of an alcohol/drug addiction he couldn't sort through over the past few years.
It touches home. All of it.
We're all here for only a short period of time. Why not try to make someone's life happier and more pleasant, whether it's in real-life or the anonymity of an internet message board? Doesn't mean you can't disagree... doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinion on various topics. But why the need to be the bane of someone else's existence?
You have no idea who's life you can touch positively by simply being understanding and cordial, even when it seems most challenging to do so, even if it's just a kind word (or simply biting your tongue on an issue you don't agree with that invokes a deep hatred of a belief system contrary to yours).
Life is too short to be bitter and antagonistic all of the time.
You're above this. I know that you're better than this.
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When it becomes apparent that the only purpose I serve visiting this website is to argue and debate others, then I personally feel obligated to check myself.
We're all friends here. There's not a single soul here that I wouldn't enjoy teeing it up with, differing life philosophies be damned.
And you, above all else, know that this is truth for me. I enjoy golf, I enjoy sharing this game I love with others who love the game. Doesn't matter what their opinions are about aeration, climate change, politics, religion.
I'm not out to change the world. I'm trying to make the world a better place by simply being a friend, someone who other people want to spend a few hours of their day with.
Life is too short. Make as many friends as you can. And when you can't find common ground - still be nice. It's what our parents taught us many years ago. We've nothing to lose by assuming higher ground in petty arguments. But when we don't - we lower ourselves to the same standard to those we take issue with.
We should all strive to be above that. Myself included.
Life is too short.
PA-PLAYA Why? Why come on here if your only purpose is to stir shit?
I am truly sorry about you're learning about your friends tragedy.
However, I didn't start this thread to stir shit. The original post was legitimate and if you were to look at my first response to your first reply, you'll see that I agreed. That it is my responsibility to check if aerated greens are annoying.
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Firstly. Thank you for the kind wishes about my golf buddy's son. Appreciate it.
Your responsibility to check if aerated greens are annoying...?
Of course they're f-ing annoying. Everyone agrees. Including myself. And yeah - it'd be nice if every course had the policy to inform the public ahead of time. But we know it's hardly ever been that way and will never be that way across the board. So why complain/argue about it if you've experienced this over the past 20 years?
The gist of your post however wasn't about "checking to see if aerated greens are annoying" but rather to complain about the course not making you aware, and once you get there and realize that the greens aren't pristine - should you be entitled a discount?
This was your quote! :
Should not golf courses advise their customers that their greens might have just been aerated? I recognize that aeration is essential for turf growth and management. However, given approximately half of our strokes in a round of golf might be on or around the greens, should there not be a discount on price and forewarning when accepting tee times? Obviously, I believe there should be such a courtesy rendered.
What am I not getting here? Did I misread your post?
A guy who's worked in the industry, besides myself, who tried to offer some perspective on the issue asked you a few honest and valid questions. Your reply insinuated that he was a "Dick." Mostly because you didn't feel the need to answer his questions, especially when his opinion was contrary to yours.
Which is fine. It's your prerogative. You're at liberty to not answer questions and call whomever you want "a dick."
It just devalues your character, that you refuse to look at both sides of the issue, and then when asked to step up to the plate to provide some sort of answer - your retort is petty name calling.
This is shit teenagers do when they're not getting enough attention or aren't happy and make it known via social media.
What can we do to help you not be bitter? What can we do to make you happy? Would you like for us to contact the courses you play a few days in advance to make sure the greens are okay?
Whatever we can do to help, let us know.