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"Martin Kaymer has seen the online reaction to Tiger Woods' recent troubles, and he doesn't like it. Not one bit. The former world No. 1 from Germany took to Twitter to express his feelings about "so many comments, so many opinions, they're so unfair and very disrespectful in my opinion."

"Everybody who's involved in golf was changed by his legacy, by his play, by so many things that he has done."

"Yes, he's in the public eye, he's in the spotlight a lot, so of course people will talk about him, but why (are they) so nasty? Why don't you try to do the opposite and help him now, the way he inspired us?"
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Reasonably sure he's even talking about us hacks!

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Well... there comes a time when one needs to man-up and apologize. I used entirely too much profanity this morning while also being way too sanctimonious. It's not going to change my opinion of what I perceive to be a very serious challenge for Woods, and I truly hope that he can find a sincere friend to tell him some things he probably doesn't want to hear, but needs to hear, and he gets the help he needs.

My apologies to those of you who might've felt offended by my unwarranted commentary. Everyone is entitled their opinions!

Cheers. 🙂


    All joking aside (hard for me), I stopped caring about the story the same day it came out. Tiger has been irrelevant to me for years. The world has much more interesting topics. However, this thread is of interest because of the furor in it. TW still stirs the pot. You guys are hilarious getting so spun up over nothing. Where's the popcorn smiley?

    PA-PLAYA
    Can't even tell who you might be referring to! Par4QC merely qouted Kaymer. Nothing changed in this thread in the past day save for a side 'conversation' about Sir Charles and whether he's more credible about TW than Jack.

    Oh, that and the usual sdandrea equivocating; that he doesn't care but, he thinks TW's "children seeing this might give him the wake-up call he needs". Not there's not judgment there either. LOL


        professor

        Laugh all you want professor. My comment was not judgemental. My opinion is that Tiger needs help and the situation is sad if his kids see this. You seem to be judging me, however, and like Tiger, you don't really know me.

            sdandrea1

            Some people feel that having an opinion that Tiger might have a problem and needs help is wrong. The irony is that it's no different than the people who are of the opinion and are making the assumption that he doesn't .

            Like or dislike Tiger I doubt that any member of this forum would wish and hope that Tiger has an addiction problem, I want to believe that we are all understanding of how terrible that can be. However, we all have the right to formulate our own opinions on what might be going on with him.

              sdandrea1
              Oh geez... Laughing whenever I so choose. I believe we're all judgmental - just a matter of degrees.

              He may need help. But, it's usually best to clearly define problems before seeking solutions. We are not gonna know what the problem is.

              As far as my equivocating comment, it might actually be more compliment than insult. Since FGI I've noticed you typically take the high road and when offering opinions, yours are usually more measured and conservative. I think we all fall on a range in terms of our reactions - sentiments, some being more opinionated and reactionary and some less.

                  mikeintopeka
                  I don't know... Some folks seem to think that bad press is better than no press. It sure ain't a commercial!

                      professor

                      You're fortunate. I don't follow them either, but I think that they are merely famous for being famous. Amassed a fortune via TV Reality show that chronicles their worthless, spoiled lives.

                        Just for the sake of discussion... who thinks Charles Barkley (who I actually like btw) has more "insider" knowledge about pro golf than Jack Nicklaus?

                        Is it a stretch to assume that Nicklaus might know something that other people don't know as it relates to Woods? Is it a stretch to assume that (perhaps) Tiger's prior associations with fellow celeb athletes like Sir Charles, Jordan, etc. - guys who've long been known to enjoy "playboy" lifestyles - no longer exist since November 2009?

                        Hey, I understand why his most ardent of fans want to give him the benefit of the doubt. And quite truthfully - when I see these arrest videos being made public - it actually sways my opinion considerably to the pro-Tiger side, simply because I don't think releasing those videos were necessary unless a legal injunction called for them. I am not about kicking a guy while he's down and humiliating him needlessly further.

                        But if you're asking me who I personally trust the opinions of more as it relates to anything golf-related, I will take Nicklaus over Sir Charles every loving time. If he says "Tiger needs our help," then I don't think there's really anything needing to be explained.

                        Nicklaus is considered the greatest golfer on the planet, AND an admitted Tiger Woods supporter. I think he comes at this from a slightly different, more objective and more knowledgeable angle than Barkley does.

                          PA-PLAYA

                          I doubt the videos were released to further humiliate Tiger, but to comply with Florida statutes ( although I don't know if that 100%) . I suppose one could say, don't want to be humiliated, don't do something stupid. The videos do invoke feelings of sympathy towards Tiger, they are outright sad to watch.

                            Reading through this thread makes me remember how polarizing Tiger always was on the FGI forum. Before 2009, it seemed people were judged as either a "fanboy" or a "hater." Nothing in between. I always thought those on either extreme were a little crazy. Tiger's fist pumps and celebrations were an affront to the game of golf? You're a "hater" (maybe based on racism) if you root for underdogs to beat him or don't like his expletive laden mini tantrums on the course?

                            Having said that, I think this thread has overall represented much more reasoned discussion than we saw in the past, even if professor remains quite sensitive to criticism of or speculation about Tiger's life after this recent event, and weirfan's approach seems reminiscent of those who obsess with high profile murder mysteries. ☺

                              "But we don’t know that because we don’t know Woods. We never have."

                              USA TODAY Sports columnist Nancy Armour on Twitter @nrarmour.
                              I think this statement sums it up for all, even Jack & Charles. Probably even for his own Mother!!
                              On the surface, it appears he does have a 'medication' dependency; I think there is enough circumstantial evidence of that.