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  • Ping buys Single Length patent from Nike

Eh, maybe not. I've been out of the game for a while. I dunno. I do know, from my limited experience, I used to hit my steel shafted 43" driver further than my playing partners' longer graphite shafted drivers. I'm 1/2 tempted to put a grip on my steel shafted 10° Spectrum and give it a go.

    puttnfool why not....I'm currently playing my 919 HL at 43.75 with s2s black 85.....Not as long as with my other setups, but it's easier to control and center face strikes are improved. I added a lot of weight and it's essentially a big headed 2 or 3 wood....Sometimes referred to as a thriver😎

    We'll see. I'm not hitting the current driver all that bad. I honestly only need it about 3-4 times per round on the courses I play here anyway.

    puttnfool I was wishing for my old X-1 on a steel X-100 last time out. I was crushing drives, I mean absolutely blistering the ball with my 45" Ping, but I'm not sure if the blisters came before or after they hit the trees at 150mph.. just tough to say.

    The whole thing I don't get is the fact that the average golfer can't swing a 37 inch club of any kind more than 70 mph. A 70 mph anything won't carry more than 150 yards. Lowering the lofts kills carry distance even more. How can a golfer play a good round without the ability to hit any shot over 150. Add to that a shorter wood that won't travel 200 .

    The difference between a 5I and 7I is just an inch.
    The difference between a 7I and a 9I is just an inch.
    I don't grip every shot at the same precise location. I am sure I could easily grip 2 different shots with the same iron 1/2 inch higher/lower without even noticing that I am doing it.

    So single length is literally simply an inch or less change.

    If you are so sensitive that choking down an inch on a 5I causes some sort of swing break down do to a dynamic swing weight change, then by all means, go SL Immediately. Otherwise......???? Club up and/or choke down.

    The well designed SL sets are designed to have the entirely same setup for each club.
    The traditional iron sets require that each club has its own unique setup procedure, especially in terms of ball location.

    You mention that a 1/2" difference in where you grip the club makes an unnoticeable difference in your results.
    However, the real reason why the SL technology is gaining interest is the stup at the other end of the club. With SL you have the same setup for each club, same ball positioning, same posture, same point of aim for the intended shot. The 1/2" difference may not make a big difference for you at the grip end of the club, but setup with the ball 1/2" forward in your stance and the difference is more noticeable.

    As for the entire set being same length, that will take some sort of magic, or the entire set is 43"

    a 43" lob wedge would definitely be interesting.

    I would think most golfers alter their ball position a little depending on the shot they have to make. Get under a few branches and take a routine swing and watch the ball rattle around like a pin ball machine. I'm teaching my son in law to play and one of the first things is getting it out of the woods, he's there more than the fairway.

      Tinker

      Sure, but that's a situational adjustment and not a "well this is a different iron, so you have to position the ball differently." with SL you still move the ball around to alter your shot, but you're starting from the same point every time and then making the necessary adjustment for trajectory or the situation.

      While I haven't yet built a SL set (it is on my to do list) one aspect of an SL set that intrigues me is how it could improve the approach game. I imagine it will be really easy to adjust distance for a pitch shot by just changing irons as the setup and swing will be exactly the same.

        golfer_LD isn't that what we already do? I mean, if I'm approaching from 110-115 yards, I might use a PW, but if I'm approaching from 140 yards, I'd probably use an 8i. Ball position, setup, etc. is gonna be the same for either club.

          puttnfool

          While we think we are using the same ball position and swing with the current traditional sets with varying weights and lengths we in fact are not. If we were, then if you used the exact same ball position and swing you use with a traditional 8 iron with a traditional PW you would actually top/toe the golf ball. The reason being is that with the way a traditional set is now, for a PW shot you must be a bit closer to the ball as well have a swing that begins with a bit more waist bend. With an SL set everything would be the same, the distance you stand from the ball, the posture your body is in during the entire swing, as well as the feel of the club through the entire swing.

            golfer_LD

            You're right on. A "three quarter" swing with any iron in an SL iron set is exactly the same setup, same swing.

            It has been difficult to adjust to a "long" sand wedge for chip shots, but I'm sticking with it. Ripping a 37" 5i 220yds makes up for a little time invested in perfecting the use of a 37" SW. Firm 3/4 swings with the SW are fine, but trying to hit a 40yd shot has been tough.