Handicap question

KCee · 2025-07-25T16:47:26+00:00

So this year I was drafted onto our club's handicap committee and I was told there would be almost nothing to do, but I've been asked to look at multiple pla...

Par4QC

I can't hear worth a damn.
Could you please adjust me 3 strokes?

Typhoon

Par4QC I can't hear worth a damn.

“What did you get on the last hole?”
“5”
“what?”
“5”
“what?”
“5”
“ Niice, I’ll put you down for a 9!”

KCee

So this past weekend one of the players on the USGA list finished 2nd and won some good money. The USGA tool recommended him to be dropped 3 strokes while the last guy was recommended to be dropped 2 strokes.....and they dropped him 4 and kept him out of the tournament. I asked if we were going to now look at this recent winner since being on the USGA list and winning tournaments seems to be the criteria. So far there are crickets from the Handicap Committee as they seem to only go after those players they don't care for.

The last guy that asked for 2 extra strokes due to a sore back, got them and I just noticed he was on the USGA list and it was recommended his index be reduced by 1 stroke! He hasn't won anything that I'm aware of so I suppose it doesn't matter, but I wonder what his regular group would think of all this assuming they play for something?

PA-PLAYA

KCee

What is the primary purpose of this handicap committee? Do they know?

Just curious.

stroh

I've never heard of a committee. I've only ever posted my scores on the computer back in the day, and now the app.
You put your scores in and it spits out a number. Doesn't matter if your back hurts or not.

Is this something regional, special clubs, fancy country clubs, etc.? For tournaments only?

Eguller

PA-PLAYA What is the primary purpose of this handicap committee?

To scare the crap out of would be baggers.

Our committee once cut a members handicap in half due to ridiculous tourney scores and he wasn't
the only one flagged. He quit the club.... and nobody shed a tear.

KCee

PA-PLAYA I thought it was to protect the players from sandbaggers, but I think it's just to go after players they don't like and help ones they do. The current Handicap Chairman was voted out a few years back for this reason, but the old boys network got organized and got him re-elected.

The club reminds me of a small slice of American politics. That's all I'll say to keep this out of the Water Hazard lol.

professor

PA-PLAYA What is the primary purpose of this handicap committee? Do they know?

Just curious.

Well, as you are aware, golf is "the gentleman's game". It teaches character and honesty, right?

azgreg

PA-PLAYA What is the primary purpose of this handicap committee?

To evaluate mobility scooters.

PA-PLAYA

KCee

I don't know how it works at your club, but stuff like this would be reported to the director of golf at my former club. Their influence hinders fair participation.

KCee

professor Well, as you are aware, golf is "the gentleman's game". It teaches character and honesty, right?

I don't know if it teaches it. It certainly reveals it

KCee

PA-PLAYA Our Pro is aware and the board and others know.

I feel the membership should know how the Handicap Committee operates as they can vote people out. I've suggested we be transparent about how the USGA tool is used and how decisions are made and they seem open to that so we'll see.

sdandrea1

KCee

Good luck man. I hope this works out for you, but don't expect to win any popularity contests. The world needs more folks that will step up.

Typhoon

Once again as I said… this is why I’m done with the USGA and any of their events. Just go back to the system we had 40 years ago. This one is no better. It’s all about a bunch of shitheads trying to beat the system. Best thing to do is let them cheat and lie as much as they can so everyone see what a bunch of assholea they are and give out $10 prizes.

bigshank

Are these individuals running away from the field in tournaments or what’s going on? Are we talking 15 hcps shooting 73 in tournaments?

sdandrea1

bigshank Are we talking 15 hcps shooting 73 in tournaments?

Yep. I've seen it. An acquaintance at my old Florida club was winning EVERYTHING. His story was that he just THRIVES for competition and plays his best under pressure. He was first adjusted up and then banned from net events. He couldn't win a single dime playing for gross score. He eventually got banned from the clubhouse and resteraunts for getting handsy with a wait staff member. He and his wife moved out of the community (again). He left The Villages under similar circumstances. Piece of shit.

bigshank

It blows my mind people do this stuff. We’re not talking life changing money here. Losing friends and getting tossed from clubs 😂😂😂

sdandrea1

bigshank It blows my mind people do this stuff.

DJT.

KCee

sdandrea1 Yup. Most do not feel they're doing anything wrong. If you're not sandbagging then you're an idiot because you're only hurting your chances of winning. The mentality is "I have to cheat because there is probably at least 1 other guy cheating. By cheating and winning I am smarter than the rest of you.

Luc_Van_Daele

eltigrecda The USGA does not allow an exception for injuries and neither should you

Wrong. There is even a dedicated rule for that in the USGA handicaping rulebook :

Rule 7.1a/2 – Basis of Handicap Committee-Applied Adjustment For a Player Impacted by Illness or Injury

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