scotts33 I think these are goo free.....ts1-im on other hand are not. Agreed re same scores all else being equal. These appeal more to me then the TS1, TS1-im, and ts2. Prefer a solid piece of metal. I try to avoid sharp leading edges and shallow face woods/hybrids, after that just let me out on the course and I'm content. Had a meeting north of Luxemburg last night and the skies cleared up so I stopped at Northbrook and touched em all. Beautiful little course!