Wishon 919THI

Balleszabal

Any idea of why Wishon repaced SP700 Ti for the commercial 6Ti 4AL in his 919THI driver head?

Rickochet

Balleszabal Any idea of why Wishon repaced SP700 Ti for the commercial 6Ti 4AL in his 919THI driver head?

Uh oh. My original 919thi cracked and Wishon replaced it. I hope I didn't get a switcheroo. SP700 is my preferred face material. I have been a little disappointed with performance with the new one. Is the material stamped on the sole somewhere?

pellmell

It's a sad state of affairs. Does the cheaper 6Ti 4AL perform as well? Why change something that works? RIP Wishon.

Balleszabal

Performance is the same as the SP700 version.I also have the old HL model it is the sound that is that is different.

rsvman

I don't know. I am still gaming the old 919THI driver. Sweet stick.

HybridWood

Maybe something to do with the new management (Diamond Golf Intl.)?

DonM

The face was 6-4 in last year's catalog, before Diamond Golf

sdandrea1

DonM

New owners, new cost model?

pellmell

The face material was changed in June 2016.

Balleszabal

pellmell in Jun

If Pellmell is right about the date I am lucky. I bought the new bendable hosel head in October 2015 so the face should be SP700. The sound is quite muted and the feeling,soft.Both very similar to those of the Nike Vapor Flex and the Ryoma Maxima.

HybridWood

sdandrea1 Agree there's a possibility that Diamond might have something to do with it. They took operations over in 4Q2016. How long do you suppose Wishon and Diamond were in negotiations? Perhaps the conditions of the sale mandated the for changes in material?

Pure speculation of course!

ode

As others have said, previous 16 catalog indicated 6-4.....I always thought it was 15.3.3.3. I still like sp700, followed closely by 15.3.3.3

Release

Cost of production went up quite a bit in the last 5 years. Not surprise they follow the model of the restaurants, smaller plates and higher price for the same menu. In this case, using the less expensive material and production procedure.

Same foundry in China now produce Honma since they own the brand. Someone told me there is a Chinese driver retail for $14 K............. The shifting of production models for golf clubs from components to OEM now geared toward the high end users. The bottom layer will gradually fall off or lose the top factory for production because of cost.

sdandrea1

HybridWood

Agree. Tom could have sold the farm long before the announcement and stayed on for transition help. Just speculation.

rsvman

Balleszabal Probably. Mine is older and it definitely has a muted sound and feels amazing.

pellmell

Balleszabal
On June 2016 the specification changed on Wishon's website to 6Ti 4AL. But this is not the first time. When the 919THI was introduced in 2008, according to their catalog it was 4.5Al-3V-2Mo-2Fe Titanium.
image /assets/images/0-94-69Th23zoQqohvjWw.jpg

Par4QC

pellmell Not a chemist or metallurgist or whatever, so don't understand what all that means. But, that blue head 919 was the hottest, longest of all of them. Of course, crazy bastage me sold it off as the longest driver I ever built. And it was a beaut with the blue HOF Whup N' Shaft.

I did make a killing on it via the sale though. Huge $$$, compared to what I had invested.😉

Balleszabal

No,it isn't.Only the specs in the web say the face is Titanium 6Al4V when not long ago it was SP700.

Rickochet

Balleszabal No,it isn't.Only the specs in the web say the face is Titanium 6Al4V when not long ago it was SP700.

That might not jive with what was posted in the printed catalogs. 2015 Sp700 2016 6/4 Cup face.

azgreg

Nerds.