Subsonic Reading the books and reading your posts, I am definitely thinking about taking the clubhead to the target.

Le Dance du Golf looks too passive for me. When I swing like that I seem to end up swatting at the ball and get a 💩 result.

I can see why Sparks swing could seem more passive. Manuel's famous words to me...."Scott swing thru the ball don't hit at it....focus on the target" MDLT/Jones, Sparks, Triangulaid are for swingers of the club head not for hitters.

      scotts33 I feel that focusing on the target keeps the clubhead moving through impact. I see it as one motion to the target in my mind and the ball just gets in the way.

      I have messed around a bit with Sparks when I have seen it posted here over the years. Have never really worked with it or practiced it. Played around at the range a few times and just did not seem for me. Did not seem athletic if that makes sense.

          Subsonic Played around at the range a few times and just did not seem for me

          I think that's true for just about any swing if you truly don't give it a lengthy chance. Many that find Venetos that are playing off of back foot chunkers love Jim when they start hitting crisp shots right away.

          If anything is gonna work it takes buying into it and working with it. I don't do a lot of range time, issue can be when you take something to the course and don't have quick results folks will give up on it as quickly. This is another reason don't worry about score and count good impact, it's not as hard on the ego.

            LPGA Tour Major winner’s testimonial to Manuel de la Torre’s concepts.

              sdandrea1 Supple (souplesse)

              In those above swings of Manuel and Sam Snead I'd say with that lifted left heel they can turn more in their 60's and display souplesse.. For edification Bill Owens came up the term souplesse, La Danse Du Golf. He is a UK golfer he moved to France and gave Triangulaid teaching. He came up with these terms. There is a direct correlation to Jones/DeLaTorre to Bill Owens.

              You can watch and see these movements are much the same. Turn on English subtitles.

                rsvman2 That's poetry in motion. And he was probably still breaking 70, at least once in a while.

                At 61 he won the Senior World championship in 1973 at 20 under so I'm pretty sure he was still scoring in the 60's at 65. He also teamed with Don January to win the Liberty Mutual Legends of Golf 1983 at 71, I bet he was still in the 60's then.

                    pellmell Sneakylong

                    Morgan Pressel is a major LPGA winner also, but her swing is remarkably flawed.

                    How do you define flawed? There is no standard or codified correct swing.

                        sdandrea1

                        Yes, good enough to win four tournaments and perhaps indicative of the level of play on the LPGA.

                            pellmell Yes, good enough to win four tournaments and perhaps indicative of the level of play on the LPGA.

                            I'd take that flawed swing if she's done with it. 😉

                              garyt1957 At 61 he won the Senior World championship in 1973 at 20 under so I'm pretty sure he was still scoring in the 60's at 65. He also teamed with Don January to win the Liberty Mutual Legends of Golf 1983 at 71, I bet he was still in the 60's then.

                              Sam was my first golfing hero! I got hooked on golf watching him win one match after another on an old TV show
                              called All Star Golf!