Manuel De La Torre Swing

Subsonic · 2022-08-20T18:05:02+00:00

We talked about it a bit here: https://golfbuzz.com/d/7099-golfbuzzers-outing/69 I feel it deserves its own thread, so here it goes. I have been practic...

scotts33

sdandrea1 Thanks Ron & Scott! I've seen all of those but they seem to be demos and conceptual. Maybe I'll grab the book.

It is the concept of Ernest Jones and Manuel De La Torre that golfers need to grab and buy into. If you are looking for specific detailed information on the body needs to be here or the hands and the arms need to be here then they aren't for you. JMO. It's the whole centered swing. Example Manuel didn't care if a golfer has a neutral grip or a strong grip but both hands needed to be together not one hand working against the other. In many ways, they go along the way of teaching like Brian Sparks they don't get into minute detail it's about the whole swing centered. It's the big picture that's important not little details.

Subsonic

sdandrea1 I think Swinging the Clubhead by Ernest Jones and Understanding the golf Swing by MDLT go hand in hand. I only have four books in my golf library: Tom Watson Getting up and Down, John Jacobs Practical golf and these two.

When I went to the range yesterday, I finished up with 5 balls with my 6 iron at the 165 flag. Four were on the green next to the flag and 1 just dribbled on the green. That is outstanding for me.

Here were my swing thoughts: Throw the clubhead over the right Shoulder, Pull down and through impact with my upper arms and take the clubhead to the target. Let the lower body do what ever it has to do to support those movements.

I like it!

fatshot

Subsonic I only have four books in my golf library: Tom Watson Getting up and Down, John Jacobs Practical golf and these two.

Four pretty good ones to have !!!!

Sneakylong

Subsonic

I’ve mentioned this before, but another Ernest Jones disciple was the late Jim Flick. You could check out some of his stuff as well. Flick worked with Jack Nicklaus. And a disciple of Flicks is Mike Malaska.

Malaska puts out videos all the time. As I mentioned before the body focused swing systems are all the rage now. But there are a few who still adhere to the Ernest Jones concepts.

wishbone

Subsonic

Interesting. As a junior golfer many years ago, this was what I was taught. And pretty much hit the ball of the middle of my stance.

Sneakylong

Here’s Manuel talking to some of his teaching disciples in 1987 about what his method / system is all about. He mentions Ernest Jones as well and how he has added to that concept. This video is just a snippet of his concepts.

Here’s the longer video.

Eguller

Sneakylong the body focused swing systems are all the rage now.

If you are 20 something, flexible and strong, body focus may be for you - as most tour swings.

Check the various Tour Champions swings. No cookie cutters there. 🏌

Subsonic

My body is pretty broken up and has issues, so a body focused swing does not work for me.

Eguller

Subsonic

Yeah, well, I was trying to be nice with my comments on external focus swings. 😉

scotts33

As to body focused and restrictive golf swings. At 73 playing MDLT my whole life from teens to now and bowling fall/winter. I have not had any lower torso issues replacement of knees or hips. Part of that is my golf swing with low stress and no restriction with lower body to build club head speed.

sdandrea1

scotts33

I love the concept. I've lost a lot of flexibility but mostly want a body - friendly swing so I can play 3 - 4 times/week without needing an ambulance. I've dabbled in Sparks with some success, and find that leisurely motion very easy on the body.......still struggle with good strikes tho.

Subsonic

sdandrea1 Jump in papaD... the waters nice...

I definitely am getting good strikes with MDLT method. To me the Sparks Method seemed a little too passive.

sdandrea1

Subsonic

All I've seen is videos of the concept. No instructions. I put the book in my Amazon cart.

scotts33

Subsonic Jump in papaD... the waters nice...

You guys play some what frequently during summer? If so always good to have another golfer that is working on the same thing as someone you can bounce ideas off of and also take video to compare. I have always thought that was a good idea.

scotts33

Trish Beucher is based on and focus on the concepts of Ernest Jones and Manuel De la Torre. She is south of Jacksonville.

And John Hayes is in Clearwater area. He's a Manuel devotee.

SMT

scotts33 Well Trish has one of those... "kinda' hard to listen to" voices. We also have differing definitions of Blustery. Partly sunny, shorts and a polo shirt is summer over here.

Subsonic

scotts33 We tee it up a couple times a year. papaD is too busy...

sdandrea1

Subsonic We tee it up a couple times a year. papaD is too busy...

Someone is still working full time.........and it's not PapaD.

Subsonic

sdandrea1

1) When have you offered Subsonicsan the opportunity to tee it up and he declined? One time that he can think of and it was like the day before he received notice.
2) Your schedule is more packed than mine.

Sneakylong

For me this is the essence of the Manuel de la Torre swing concept. The late PGA Tour player Bob Brue (de la Torre disciple) used a tennis ball on a rope as well. Find your rhythm.

sdandrea1

Sneakylong

To me, that looks EXACTLY like Brian Sparks.

rsvman2

Sneakylong Dan Martin. The guy who sells the gadget he calls 'the Pro.'

He's the guy you want to watch for this concept. He explains it better than anybody.

azgreg

sdandrea1
My thoughts as well.

Sneakylong

sdandrea1

Type in rope golf swing on YouTube and see what pops up. Lol

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