sdandrea1 Golf is getting watered down from it's roots.

Speaking of watered down, how will the PGA "sprinkle" these new events into their schedule?
Does this mean other events that "unfortunately" fall before or after them, now get less of the big names in their fields?
What's the fall out from that?
Does the PGA "re-do" the event commitments of the big names to force them to play more often?
On the surface, these new events look like this would deter ship jumpers, but, if it "forces" players to play more often then what? LIV would still look more inviting.

Spuzz That was my partly my point. Jack shit=No majors= not worthy of big sponsor money for on the course results.

I think that we'll have to agree to disagree on this one - a player who has won multiple times, finished in the top 10 on the money list three times, contended in all of the majors several times and has made more than $40m in tournament earnings alone has done quite a bit more than 'jack shit' in my eyes. Ask any young player currently playing college golf or on the Korn Ferry Tour about what they hope to achieve as a golfer, and I suspect that pretty much all of them would be very happy to have the career that Rickie Fowler has had.

    Par4QC - I remember observing some planning for an organization many years ago and there was a concern about the big bank balance earmarked for their reserves. They were able to show blue prints or an artist's rendition for a new headquarters building under discussion.That passed muster.

    MartinD Ask any young player currently playing college golf or on the Korn Ferry Tour about what they hope to achieve as a golfer, and I suspect that pretty much all of them would be very happy to have the career that Rickie Fowler has had.

    Perhaps. But would they want what he is going through now? Rickie is done, imo. Almost a mental case. Changed the swing, when everything as going well, and now, after 2 seasons, cannot find his way around any course. He will never get that back, sorry. How many of those kids are looking at that part of their future? Famous for a few years, a has-been for several? And just how long will Rickie continue to 'hang around'? If that is what they are looking at, and wanting, then it IS just about the money only.
    If they are just going to be in it for a few years, and want max payout, they will go LIV, if given the offer. And they should.
    Rickie needs an offer. Now.

      johnnydoom That was from 11 days ago, so they must not have been offered more than $1.98 per event. In present forms, all they are worth. ๐Ÿคจ

      I have to assume everyone that is going is either getting some guaranteed "signing bonus" or is about to lose their tour card anyway.

      raggmann54 They still play Pro Baseball??? In Pittsburgh we wouldn't know???

      PA-PLAYA I can relate. Although the Phillies are starting to turn the corner.

      The letdown is sure to come however.

      You guys are funny, I'm a Tiger fan. Well, at least I live near Detroit

      https://www.golfchannel.com/news/jay-monahan-addresses-pga-tour-changes-and-liv-threat-i-am-not-naive

      Jay Monahan addresses PGA Tour changes and LIV threat: 'I am not naive'

      โ€œI am not naive. If this is an arms race and if the only weapons here are dollar bills, the PGA Tour can't compete,โ€ Monahan said. โ€œThe PGA Tour, an American institution, can't compete with a foreign monarchy that is spending billions of dollars in attempt to buy the game of golf."

      โ€œWe welcome good, healthy competition. The LIV Saudi golf league is not that. It's an irrational threat; one not concerned with the return on investment or true growth of the game.โ€

      Monahan also framed the current narrative as a challenge to the established meritocracy of the Tour and a moral choice thatโ€™s complicated by the geopolitics of the Saudi-backed LIV series.

      On the PGA Tour, our members compete for the opportunity to add their names to history books, and, yes, significant financial benefits, without having to wrestle with any sort of moral ambiguity,โ€ he said. โ€œPure competition creates relevancy and context, which is what fans need and expect in order to invest their time in a sport and in a player.

      Specifically, the commissioner outlined the plan to dramatically increase purses at eight events โ€“ Sentry Tournament of Champions ($15 million), Genesis Invitational ($20 million), Arnold Palmer Invitational ($20 million), Players Championship ($25 million), Dell Technologies WGC-Match Play, Memorial ($20 million), FedEx St. Jude Championship ($20 million) and BMW Championship ($20 million) โ€“ and create a three-event international series in the fall for the gameโ€™s top players beginning in 2024.

      The purse increases starting in 2023 total $54 million, and Monahan was asked where those funds came from.

      One of the things that we've heard over the last several months from our sponsors is, please tell us what we can do to help. And so the changes that we're making is coming from a combination of sponsor contribution and our reserves.

      Monahan was also asked about the changes to the playoff structure and how players earn exempt status. The playoffs will now begin with the top 70 from the regular-season points list, down from the top 125, with the existing fall events deciding the final exempt list for the next season.

      To say that everybody supports this would be an exaggeration, but it's the right move for the business and ultimately it's the right move for our players and fans, and that's something I look forward to proving in the years ahead,โ€ Monahan said when asked the level of support for the changes to the exempt process."

        Sneakylong with the existing fall events deciding the final exempt list for the next season.

        And will the top 70 be barred from these events, in order that others have a solid chance to improve positions, like the Korn Ferry Tour does it?

        Sneakylong without having to wrestle with any sort of moral ambiguity

        Yet, most are signed with companies they really could give a shit about. They came straight from the collegiate circuit, with good records, and money was thrown at them. Did any of them step back and check into the companies before signing? Or was ...'here is $40M/yr. for the next 3 yrs.' good enough for them to grab the pens? I'll say....it was the latter. Morals be/were damned. Same as the LIV signers. People are people, and money always yells, it never talks. Esp. to the young, and the old. ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜

        I'm not saying either side is right or wrong, but 1 side is really spreading far too much BS around, and it's a helluva bad look for them. Just shut up, do your thing. You look almost stupid with some of the things I'm reading. Almost embarrassing, personally.

          sdandrea1 The PGA Tour protesteth too much-eth......or some shit like that.

          It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt...or some shit like that.

          Par4QC

          That's the first time I've heard him say that the PGA Tour can't compete money wise. It's obvious, but he acknowledged it publicly. I think he's being proactive to the threat.

          We've hashed over to death all the geopolitical / morality stuff. Now it's just a chess game with one side having the upper hand money wise and the other having the better competition model / prestige / legacy etc..

          As long as LIV remains mostly a high paid exhibition tour, then the PGA Tour's model will continue to have the upper hand. That could all change down the road, but for now I think Monahan is doing just what he needs to do in reacting to the threat.

            Sneakylong That could all change down the road, but for now I think Monahan is doing just what he needs to do in reacting to the threat.

            Except talking........I think the high road in this situation would be to just press on and operate the Tour. Defending it makes him look threatened. IMO.