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This thread has set the standard for the most civil political discourse ever......nice work, guys! 
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Sneakylong just a glorified skins game and exhibition match.
And the Champions Tour is not?
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KCee Careful. What other sports league doesn't pay someone after a few days work? I'm not a Phil fan at the moment, but he has brought in the fans since before he was a pro and I'm pretty sure he missed a few cuts.
Apples tp Apples remember. lol It's an individual sport. Tennis would be an better analogy. Maybe the PGA could have billionaires bid and form teams in major cities and draft players and pay them huge contracts. 
Don't think that would fly. So yeah, if you're good enough you can play professional tour level golf for your lifetime. In professional team sports if you're not good enough you get cut as well.
Tom Brady is an outlier. 
Sneakylong top players
This is not the case, with those going to LIV. Top 'names' perhaps, but certainly not top players. They are still playing PGA Tour golf. I saw that last weekend. Big names, great golf!!
Phil is 51. Reed....no one likes, and will only be missed as a scapegoat/amusement. Rickie? Who??? Bryson, cooked goose. DJ....well, it's DJ. Bubba.....hahaha!! Who were any others??????? 
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Par4QC And the Champions Tour is not?
That's true competition. You have to meet criteria to qualify. Look at Steven Alker. He Monday morning qualified and has now won 4 times on the Champions Tour.
Before that he had won 3 times on the Australasia Tour, 4 on the Korn Ferry Tour and once on the European Senior Tour. Changed his life at 50.
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Par4QC This is not the case, with those going to LIV. Top 'names' perhaps, but certainly not top players. They are still playing PGA Tour golf. I saw that last weekend. Big names, great golf!!
Phil is 51. Reed....no one likes, and will only be missed as a scapegoat/amusement. Rickie? Who??? Bryson, cooked goose. DJ....well, it's DJ. Bubba.....hahaha!! Who were any others???????
I hope it stays that way and others don't follow. We shall see.
"Changed his life at 50."
Maybe he could have changed it at 40..if there was another place he could play...instead of wasting 10 years of his life.
Par4QC This is not the case, with those going to LIV. Top 'names' perhaps, but certainly not top players. They are still playing PGA Tour golf. I saw that last weekend. Big names, great golf!!
and yet, there is still lots of complaining from the PGA side, and it's young sheep.
Why is that? Sour grapes? Pettiness? Petulance?
A few old sheep got out of the yard and the young sheep are angry? Lost without them?
It seems odd to me.
I like it. A civil, factual discussion about a very uncivil, contentious ongoing _______ . 
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https://www.golfchannel.com/news/dp-world-tour-not-set-punish-player-competing-liv-golf-events
"Some members asked me why we simply do not follow what the PGA Tour have done and immediately suspend these players,” Pelley’s memo to his constituency read. “While I understand the frustration, I remind you all that although we work closely with the PGA Tour, we are different organizations and our rules and regulations are therefore different too.”
Instead, Pelley said because of the “complexity of our situation,” he will evaluate how the LIV Golf and Asian Tour events impacted the DP World Tour events played the same weeks – the European Open and Scandinavian Mixed event. Pelley said the circuit will decide how to handle those who violated its policies on June 23, which is also the commitment deadline for the Scottish Open. The Scottish Open is co-sanctioned by the DP World Tour and PGA Tour."
Sneakylong Look at Steven Alker.
I have; an odd bloke, at best. Quite the hack with missing cuts, esp. the 1 year he missed every cut in 21 starts!!
Then the strange part of his history is the missing 2 years ,'17 &'18.
Seems unnatural.
But love his swing.
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Par4QC I have; an odd bloke, at best. Quite the hack with missing cuts, esp. the 1 year he missed every cut in 21 starts!!
Then the strange part of his history is the missing 2 years ,'17 &'18.
Seems unnatural.
But love his swing.
There's several of those type stories on The Champions Tour. Two of my favorites were Allen Doyle and Dana Quigley. Allen Doyle was an amateur who played on the winning Walker Cup team with Tiger at 46 years of age.
Dana Quigley never won on the PGA Tour, but Monday morning qualified and went on to win 11 times on the Champions Tour. Made millions.
Allen Doyle never won on the PGA Tour as well and won 11 times on the Champions Tour as well. He won the Charles Schwab Cup in 2001 and received a $1 million top prize.
Doyle, Quigley and Jim Thorpe would play practice rounds together at the old Outback Pro Am in Lutz FL. We would follow them around during their practice round. Heard some great conversations between them.
All three were nice guys in my experience. Had a nice conversation with Dana and his brother Billy (father of Brett Quigley) who caddied for him being both are from New England as we are.
That's what the PGA Tour can offer. Oh and Brett Quigley never won on the PGA Tour either, but won millions in purses being a journeymen golfer.
He's toiling on the Champions Tour now himself.
"I remind you all that although we work closely with the PGA Tour, we are different organizations and our rules and regulations are therefore different too.”
Looks like the iron clad PGA Tour/DP Tour strategic alliance is worth as much as any conscientious American Government/Native Indian Treaty was. LOL
Who could have predicted that I wonder?
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Sneakylong I think integrity is also not picking when you have integrity, ie buying Chinese goods while expressing outrage over golfers taking money from LIV. Oh that's right, that's " whataboutism ", lol