Spuzz The LIV Tour is for the over 40 guys (as I said before) and if losing those guys is what the PGA is afraid of,

Yep, I think those guys are now persona non grata for the PGA Tour Champions also. (think Philly Mick, etc).

    DonM I think the Euro tour is really in a tough spot. They already seemed to be fading. They can’t afford to lose good players. So this new tour could hurt them badly. They almost have to allow the players to stay or join up, for their own survival.

    I don’t know what degree of solidarity they have with the PGA Tour.

    https://www.europeantour.com/dpworld-tour/news/articles/detail/pga-tour-and-european-tour-announce-details-of-historic-strategic-alliance/

    They very well could be in a tough spot. Possibly worse than the PGA Tour. They made an 'historic strategic alliance' with the PGA Tour last year. They can't afford to lose too many of their players. So far they've remained mostly silent on what if any action will be taken regarding players playing in LIV Golf events.

    https://www.golfmagic.com/dp-world-tour/dp-world-tour-breaks-silence-liv-golf-rebels-scottish-open-status

    "The circuit, formerly known as the European Tour, has stayed silent through the LIV Golf drama but the PGA Tour finally took action yesterday afternoon.

    They are in a "strategic alliance" with American tour but are yet to announce what disciplinary measures - if any - they will introduce."

    In May they followed the PGA Tour and did block any releases for LIV Golf events. So the obvious question is what consequences will (if any) take place for those that went ahead with playing in LIV Golf tournaments.

    Eguller I think those guys are now persona non grata for the PGA Tour Champions also.

    Assuming that the "names" on that the banned list were intending to play, how does banning them help the Champions Tour, which is crying for "names" to spice up that tour?
    The answer is, obviously, it does not help.

      Spuzz crying for "names"

      They got the names. It's just to the point those with the 'names' are getting fitted again....for walkers/wheelchairs!! 🤣

        DonM Keeping in mind, the players there really do not much like Americans. It's why you never see some of them come over. They have some very big names/multiple winners, that won't cross the ocean, even for the money here. I think that will play into any decisions as to letting these guys join up.

          Par4QC names' are getting fitted again

          LOL
          There's the 57 year old guy playing this week ,who just qualified for the US Open after 35 years living in the bushes?
          So they got that going for them.

          Eguller

          The PGA Champions Tour is administered as a branch of the PGA Tour. The suspensions across all of the PGA Tour umbrella of Tours makes perfect sense.

          The persona non grata policy shows consistency and the seriousness of how they view the LIV threat.

            Again, there’s two issues at play here. One is the threat to the PGA Tours survival as the preeminent Tour for professional golf. The other is the morality issue with who is backing LIV Golf.

            The former would be true if Elon Musk decided to start his own Golf Tour and compete with the PGA Tour. I would suspect the PGA Tour would react the same way.

            The latter is the reason that gets most of the attention and imo rightfully so. And the PGA Tour is lucky in that regard. Because they have a large chunk of public opinion on their side because of who is funding LIV Golf.

              Sneakylong persona non grata

              If anyone thinks that tag is hurting any of the players, they are not paying attention.

              A lot of them have jumped ship and will reap a fortune, that they would never see on the PGA, or any other Tour. And, they do not have to play very often, be away from home. After all, it is 'just a job' for them, if you've done much reading about the players/listened to them yap.
              If they manage their money, they do not have to manage their game. Last is 120K + they can play like crap for 54 holes and still be a part of the winning team, that will further line their accounts. 'New school' is not coming for fame/history, they are coming for money/financial stability, for life. As long as they don't go all dopey, and start hiring agents/accountants/etc., they will make a literal fortune in just 1 year.

              Then again, I think very basic as to what would set up my life, if I were 1 of them. But even now, $1M should be able to set up even your grandkids, for life.

              Sneakylong of who is funding LIV Golf.

              Hell, the PGA could not exist, esp. as a 'non-profit', if it were not for the U.S. gvt.. In a way, they are backing the PGA.
              Is there much difference?

              Blind eyes, and such things??

                Par4QC

                Huge difference between how we view human rights and how the Saudi’s view human rights. But that discussion would be all about whataboutisms. And we know the goal of any whataboutisms argument is to delegitimize the criticism at hand. Have fun going down that rabbit hole. Lol

                  Sneakylong Just saying, no country/'people' has been proven to be able to cast stones, with clear conscience. Even The Vatican. 😉

                  So, what 'people' may do on their own, should never be a reflection of the country they rep, or go in to. Many, even from this forum, go in to countries that are suspect of heinous things.

                    Par4QC So, what 'people' may do on their own, should never be a reflection of the country they rep, or go in to. Many, even from this forum, go in to countries that are suspect of heinous things.

                    Is Berhard Langer still playing on the Champions Tour?
                    😉

                      Par4QC So, what 'people' may do on their own, should never be a reflection of the country they rep, or go in to. Many, even from this forum, go in to countries that are suspect of heinous things.

                      Rex would be banned from Golfbuzz if some of his heinous activities came to light!🤣

                        LIV golf is currently on local free TV from Hamilton Ontario (CHCH)
                        😮

                        Today I was able to find the actual LIV Golf feed on YouTube.
                        How come so few guys are under par?

                          Team Stinger kicking butt and taking names. Their players are currently first, second, third, and 11th.

                          For some inexplicable reason, there has been a vaguely jazzy song playing in the background through the entire broadcast. Weird.