Super League Predictions

toraider · 2022-02-16T17:35:31+00:00

So, aside from BDC, who's going to the Saudi League? A lot of chatter on this subject recently...

Par4QC

Bravopilot Let's say ol' Phil had planned to stay with the PGA, and had been bad mouthing those that are going for the LIV tour.

What would your thoughts be then.🤨

You really gotta get this bromance thing outta your system. It's not (wayyyy) too obvious, to all.😉
This is worse than anything I've ever read, as far as TW went. And some of those people were really bad.

Spuzz

A Spuzzmusing:

Are we assuming that resigning from the PGA Tour automatically means the player is out for majors?
Has the DPWorld Tour put out any statements similar to the PGA Tour (ie. banned/fined etc)
Aren't most of these guys members of BOTH tours?
I have not seen anything other than jeopardizing Ryder Cup eligibility, (which would affect only DJ from what I see so far)

Maybe the players know something we don't?
A nudge nudge wink wink from Keith Pelley saying we would welcome you here perhaps?
(since they need some bigger names on that tour anyway)
Pelley is a smart businessman. I don't think he would be quick to cancel any options to improve his tour, if it was at all possible.

Bravopilot

Spuzz A good musing sir, not playing in PGA Tour events hurts them in World points, plus other ways it gains exemptions into the Majors. Same with Ryder Cup, still need to qualify or change the entire selection into Capt choices, then the PGA Tour may need to re-think.

Rickochet

Is the move to LIV just about the money or mostly about the money? How many would be giving up or risking their PGA membership unless they were guaranteed a shit load of money? I am sure some have some issues with the PGA but not important enough to quit just because of that. I don't think I would have burned the bridge and quit the PGA. I would have played the LIV stuff and let the PGA boot me out if they chose to do so.

Par4QC

Rickochet I would have played the LIV stuff and let the PGA boot me out if they chose to do so.

jmo, but these guys have already talked with a 'certain' attorney, and he has them trusting him that he can beat hell outta the PGA in any court. All of the sudden, they are all doing the exact same thing...all on their own thinking? Not hardly. They got 'a guy'. And he has informed them this is the easy way to win. You cannot be an 'independent contractor' and work for 2 'companies' at the same time. Must be a Sopranos attorney. 😁

Spuzz

Rickochet I would have played the LIV stuff and let the PGA boot me out if they chose to do so.

JMO
Being a Member of any organization means you have signed obligations.
Not fulfilling those obligations, while a member, means you are susceptible to that organization's disciplinary code.
To me, this means the case does not finish at the end of said boot.
Imagine what the PGA Tour would be asking the courts in monetary compensation for DJ's violations and subsequent loss of future revenue due to his contract violations?
There're out from under the PGA thumb, likely free and easy, as most legally abiding employees would be.

garyt1957

Rickochet I am certainly not a lawyer but I have to believe they were given the legal advice to resign rather than not. I'm still thinking by resigning before being banned that somehow gives them a way back, even if they had to requalify, they couldn't just be banned for life?

Eguller

Some of these decisions being made are incomprehensible from a legacy point of view. $$ comes and goes
and how much is enough ? 🙄

Par4QC

Eguller They have all been famous, for something, since being in golf.
Is that why they started, when they were 4 yrs. old? No. Legacy means nothing to them. And should never have. Actually, this will add even more to them(legacies), when things are written about professional golf 50 yrs. from now. Some of these 'no names' will now be written in history forever, even if merely as footnotes to DJ and Phil.

garyt1957

Eguller what legacy does Na have? I'd say Na-ne. ( I thought that was clever, lol) same for almost everybody but Phil and Sergio. But we may find out Phil is really desperate money wise to keep his lifestyle flowing due to the gambling.

garyt1957

Par4QC Agreed, maybe not the same attorney even, but that just might be the prevailing legal opinion, resign before they can ban you

Taki27

Bravopilot I am kinda with you on this. If people want to join LIV let them. I know the whole Saudi regime money thing, but as i get older, there are very few people/regimes with clean hands. A ton of athletes are endorsing Nike when the employees work under terrible conditions. If the LIV players want to take a chance to earn more money, hopefully it works out. If not, they get to live with the consequences. I watch golf occasionally. I would watch LIV if it was easily accessible. I may or may not search Facebook to watch it, but it is far less likely than if im watching TV and channel surfing and it pops up.

If someone chooses to ignore the LIV, I respect that position as well.

I don’t foresee the majors shutting their doors to anyone from LIV playing in their tournaments if they are qualified or qualify through sectional qualifying. There may come issues with World Ranking Points, but I don’t see the Masters, even as stuffy and opinionated as they are precluding Garcia, Johnson or Mickelson from playing in future Masters.

Eguller

USGA has announced that for this year, those players who qualified will be in the field if they wish. No ban.

garyt1957

Eguller. As it should be

Eguller

Par4QC No. Legacy means nothing to them.

I do have more respect now for Tiger after his comments and immediately turning down the opportunity to
play (read own) LIV. The $$ figures offered were astounding. He plays for legacy.

Par4QC

Eguller 😁And like Phil always complains about, he didn't want to fork over $600M to the IRS, from that paycheck. And he would have. Maybe even more than that. Had there been 'real' value in it for him, he may well have gone over. But, what could you possibly offer that man, in terms of cash? Or perks?

KCee

Eguller He plays for legacy.

Of course Tiger's legacy may be worth 9 figures, but not anyone else's. DJ has been a great player, but I haven't seen any DJ shirts, shoes or balls. He could wind up hawking the next Alien wedge in 20 years. 9 figures is generational family money. I think he's already made it on tour and his kids have a rich grandpa to boot. Nice knowing you and your family and your future family and so on will likely never have money issues. It's not Musk or Bezos money, but it's pretty darn good.

Bravopilot

Eguller It would be interesting to see his reaction if he had the most wins instead of being tied.

sdandrea1

Par4QC But, what could you possibly offer that man, in terms of cash? Or perks?

Casino house line of credit........

Eguller

Par4QC But, what could you possibly offer that man, in terms of cash? Or perks?

Certainly not his 'own' tour - he already has that. 🤔 Cash - rumors were high 9 figures.
Legacy - one of the best ever. I'm at a loss to answer that....

Par4QC

Eguller I think he may well be/has been, 1 of the very few that is out there not playing for money.
You'd have very restricted/short fields for 'just a trophy'; a lot would never show up now.

Sarnella

Why do "we" even give a crap about any of this?

sdandrea1

Sarnella Why do "we" even give a crap about any of this?

Bored? 🤣

DonM

Sarnella Why do "we" even give a crap about any of this?

azgreg

Bravopilot
It's my understanding that if you resign from the PGA Tour you have to sit out a year before you can re-apply.

Bravopilot

azgreg OK, didn't know that, but I was talking about PGA, not the Tour. The PGA owns/runs The Ryder Cup on the US side. He can join PGA, not sure how tedious it is but they lost the automatic route. Be interesting to see if a former PGA Tour member can pass the test on the course.

sdandrea1

LIV Golf announced its opening event this week in London will be shown on Facebook, YouTube and its own website.

One of the many questions surrounding the Saudi-backed golf venture was which network would carry the fledgling league. However, at least in the United States, LIV Golf will have to launch from social and online platforms only. LIV Golf did announce its product will be aired on global networks in a release, but did not specify which, only saying a list of broadcasters will be made available on its website later this week.

This week’s event at the Centurion Club outside of London kicks off the circuit’s eight-tournament series. Each will be a three-round, 54-hole competition with no cut. There will also be shotgun starts in order to fit the events in a shorter time window, along with a team component, with 48 players divided between 12 squads. Five of the events will be held in the United States. Those sites are Pumpkin Ridge Golf Club in Portland (July 1-3), Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J. (July 29-31), The International in Boston (Sept. 2-4), Rich Harvest Farms outside Chicago (Sept. 16-18) and Trump Doral in Miami (Oct. 29-31). Other hosts include Stonehill Golf Club in Bangkok and Royal Greens Golf Club in Jeddah.
PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan has promised that any tour member who competes in an event on the rival league would face suspension from the PGA Tour and possibly a lifetime ban. The tour denied conflicting-event releases to all tour members who requested to compete in LIV Golf’s inaugural event.

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