sdandrea1 I've only watched LIV for a couple minutes. It's a shit show.

They do have some of the best golfers in the world, no questioning it. But now they need to change the format to what everyone wants to see, and what their players need. 72 holes, no shotgun start; there doesn't have to be any cut. It's in the best interest of the players in that they will be given ranking points.(maybe??) More of them would be playing majors, making them even stronger fields.
It would also make the viewing a bit more palatable, as a 'normal'(as we know it) professional golf tournament.

      sdandrea1 In my estimation, there's zero change that LIV and the PGA Tour can co-exist and both succeed. The audience isn't there.

      Yeah exactly. I've been saying the same thing. Golf isn't big enough for competing leagues. If the audience isn't there (and it isn't) it becomes oversaturated.

      The second season of Full Swing on Netflix just dropped. I've watched the first two episodes and they get into the LIV issue behind the scenes.

      The dilemma is LIV is failing miserably, but has the resources to keep going regardless of whether it's a success. The PGA Tour has the brand and market share (viewership etc..), but can't compete with the money LIV is paying it's players.

      So as it stands now it's not a good long term scenario for either.

        Par4QC I've only watched LIV for a couple minutes. It's a shit show.

        I watched about 20 minutes of the first event. It will be my last.

          Lefty posted a nice little 80 today for dead last. The Saudis are gonna want their money back. Phil could be in trouble.......

            This LIV business can't survive. It seems like a circus, like the many pro-football side projects that come and go. I'm curious to see how long it takes for the sponsorship to get bored.

            I tuned in for approximately 45 minutes yesterday to watch the LIV event.

            I found it impossible to make sense of who was actually leading the tournament. I kept pressing the exit button on my tv remote hoping that maybe it would remove the multi-colored scoring box on the left of the screen, sort of like we try to close advertising windows on our computers. Totally annoying.

            The aim point feature on the greens is only as useful as the viewer’s ability to actually see the hole - the actual target. And since they’re just as bad as the PGA tour telecasts with showing 5x as many putts as actual golf swings, that’s pretty annoying.

            And during the 45 minutes of viewing, there were maybe 3 golfers who I recognized.

            To me, it felt like a second rate Asian tour event with an algebraic scoring system.

              6 days later

              azgreg

              The PGA Tour Policy Board is meeting with Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the governor of the Public Investment Fund (PIF) of Saudi Arabia, the backer of LIV Golf, today.

                a month later

                azgreg Truth be told, he's not even a 'drawing card' on the PGA at present, with the way he's playing.
                Seems to be more hype, about him not the tourney, when he is in a field than he gets from scoring. He's a top 10 for now, only until the newbies get legs under them.

                Yeah, don't like him and hope he gets his contract. Good riddance.
                jmo

                    Would be a big draw in Europe and rest of the world...He must really be pissed at Monahan - first he quits the Tour Policy Board in mid-term, then changes his attitude toward the LIV players and now this...

                    Heard on PGA Tour Radio (Dennis Paulson, Inside The Ropes) yesterday that Phil Mickelson supposedly got a large fee for getting Jon Rahm to sign with LIV.

                    Par4QC Yeah, don't like him and hope he gets his contract. Good riddance

                    His transition to LIV would be much easier to swallow if he hadn't run his fucking mouth against it so much. What a douche-nozzle. Bye Rory.

                    I think the Saudis are just jacking the PGA Tour around for fun. They have money to burn, so why not get some entertainment out of it.

                        sdandrea1 That also.

                        Just seems like every time he's in a tournament, the announcers feel the need to build hype...he's always going to win them. He's been in some low grade tourneys and never sniffed a win. They need to realize he has passed his peak. Maybe too early, but imo, he has passed it. 'Just another good golfer'. Might still win some, might not, but will hang around closely. Some times.😉

                            $850 million would be very difficult to turn down - even for someone estimated to already be worth over 250 million. That said, I find it really odd that there’s no direct or credible source corroborating this story . I’ll not even acknowledge, much less believe, it until there is.