wow picking sides in that feud, it's like choosing between a lifetime of IBD diarrhea vs a colostomy bag

I guess I have to side with the guy who turned down the known and obvious blood money.

    rsvman2 Would it surprise anybody if Tiger were petty?

    No but I guess DeChambeau has found the find out stage after the fuck about stage.

      Par4QC

      well turning down LIV pretty much cut his net worth in half.

      I'd say honestly that's commendable. At that level the wealthier you are the higher return and safer hedged and abitraged investments you can get into. It would have been worth 20-25B by the time he died if he had anything resembling a good manager. At that point his kids and grandkids could pull 100M a year out and it would basically remain flat.

          UnholyDefenestrator78 He never lost a cent turning them down. They just did not have enough money to offer an already billionaire. Anything more than what he makes now is zero net. I'd hate to be that filthy with money. 😅

          And Rory with all his bitching, had no offer at all. It's the cause of tears for him. Then again, he has a 200M contract with Nike he's still working with. If they don't renew this year, he may have a change of heart.

              Par4QC I'd hate to be that filthy with money. 😅

              It would come with difficulty. The trick is having the $ and NOBODY KNOWS.

                Par4QC

                or he could do like all the other rich guys and
                set up a pass through S-corp as the payee on the contract and then re-invest it all in their SWF.
                Then sell off the proceeds to various other S-corps

                / not a tax accountant
                // I'm sure people do that all the time whether its legal or not

                    UnholyDefenestrator78 But, as I read last night.....the guys that did go, did sign and got huge bonuses will have a very hard time quitting LIV until their contracts are up. It was reported that there is a payback clause of up to 4 times the original bonus amounts, in order to quit/be relieved of service. Not pro-rated for years 'served'. Much like a non-disclosure clause.
                    Let me grab my calc......see what 4 x 800M is........nope....not signing that shit!!

                        Par4QC
                        Unless something surprising happens on the upside for LIV, I don't think they will be around by 2026 anyway. If they do keep going with very little of a following, it could get pretty discouraging for the players. I will be shocked if anyone near the ability of Cam Smith joins them this season. Kevin Streelman, okay sure.

                            I didn't get an answer from either YouTube TV or the local CW affiliate about why the latter is not on the former. No surprise.

                            DonM To me, it's just another Tour. I don't search for nor watch it myself. I used to watch all the European Tour tournaments but never catch them any more either. Nice they could all grab some big loot, and I have nothing against that or them. They do not pay my bills. Plus, some of those guys were getting kinda 'stale' on the PGA, I will except Smith. Liked watching him and he was getting to be the big deal on the PGA. Other than that, mehhh. I like seeing the new guys coming up get a lot of chances to play now. They prove there will never be another TW as they all are winning/taking turns, so to speak. JT, Rory, Rahm, Scottie are never going to win them all. And that is great for golf. Keeps the little kids looking forward when no one is super dominant like TW was. They know they all have a chance to win when they get there.

                              Watched it for a little bit, it's pretty easy to find CW with a Firestick VR.
                              LIV kind of has the feeling your watching a corporate outing or a celebrity golf event,
                              as opposed to watching a bunch of pro golfers in a meaningful competition. IMO
                              The way they have the leader board on the left side of the screen can be a little annoying.
                              Plus I think they should spend a little more time on each players shot, it seems as soon as the ball is hit from
                              the fairway and the ball lands, they immediately jump to another player.....no reaction factor provided! 🤬😱☹😎

                                a month later

                                darpar That's one of the things i like about it! In general, they show a lot more shots. PGA coverage has been gettlng more and more boring as the years go by, mostly because they show fewer and fewer shots.

                                    Bob Parsons, PXG take on LIV:

                                    _The PXG website has also removed all LIV golfers from the page, and Parsons feels strongly about not including them in his plans going forward.

                                    “With the stuff that went down [on] 9/11, I have a hard time getting involved with [LIV]. I know, sometimes, bygones got to be bygones, and I’ve forgiven a lot of people. One of them is Jane Fonda for what she did during the Vietnam War. I’m no longer angry at her. I get it. She was young and stupid. But I just cannot bring myself to do anything with [LIV], and the guys who are heroes, they all agree with that.”

                                    Pat Perez, Patrick Reed, Hudson Swafford, and Jason Kokrak all were under contract with PXG when they switched to LIV from the PGA Tour, but once their contracts ran out, they were not renewed.

                                    “We’ve had some guys that had contracts that went on that tour, and I honored the contracts,” said the former Marine. “But now that the contracts are up, I have no contract with them, and I don’t think they can contract with sponsors with the LIV tour, at least. I don’t know. I could be speaking out of school, but if I had an opportunity to come up and do it, I wouldn’t do it.”_

                                      rsvman2 agreed on the PGA portion, and have always advocated for showing more shots....that being said I still prefer it to LIV....and the events I've watched ...the courses look like LPGA courses. As Darpar points out the event looks like a cross between the celebrity event on Lake Tahoe and a corporate event. I cannot take it seriously at all....but that does.not mean I couldn't get some enjoyment out of it....I just havent yet. Hopefully the broadcast crews take note of what fans of golf want , not just check the boxes the sponsors want checked!

                                        Eguller

                                        It's Parson's company and his to risk. The LIV to Saudi connection has definitely changed some player's incomes in both directions. Players need to weigh the math on sponsor income vs winnings and sponsors need to weigh the math on ROI ftom sponsored players. What wins on Sunday sells on Monday?

                                            Eguller I find it humorous that he finds fault with 1 country(s) but not the ones he gets all his components from!
                                            Indirectly, those countries he still deals with have killed more Americans than 911 ever did.
                                            But he probably has forgiven the COVID outbreak, and the Vietnam war, along with all the 'immigrants' climbing over walls near his house.
                                            Bless his heart......