PA-PLAYA "If you are talking about World Ranking Points, I agree with you, as long as LIV is playing 54 hole events."

I really don't see how 54 holes are any less meaningless than 72 holes. Hell, it could be harder to win or finish high with only 54 holes, not enough time to come back. You better come out firing. Baseball went from 9 inning games to 7 inning games for doubleheaders did that make those games not count? So long as you know how long a game or tournament is before it starts, who cares?

      garyt1957

      Over the course of 72 holes, it just seems more reasonable to me that the more talented players finish in the money that week, versus 54 holes. It could also be argued that the cut line is also a form of a tournament, adding its own element of pressure.


      I just see it differently I guess.

          Eguller What we have are two gigantic egos mudslinging at each other

          There's a lot more mud slinging from one side and that side should be the adult in the room and it is not.
          I hope they get to stand in the corner until they behave
          or maybe sit on a stool with a Dunce Cap like real old school.

            PA-PLAYA he European Tour required their members to play a certain number of Euro Tour events to maintain membership,

            I believe they reduced that requirement to a measely 4 events, of their choosing.

              PA-PLAYA The LIV, to me, is all about guys not having to play in many events and still make tens upon tens of millions of dollars. They've made their decision. The money is more important. I don't blame any of them. I'd probably be the same way.

              But it just seems a bit pathetic that they'd bellyache about not qualifying for majors and world ranking points. Because clearly that wasn't more important than the money. Because if it was - they wouldn't have left.

              I do agree with all that. But imo, they do seem to have a valid point about the WR, when the whole situation surrounding the way they are awarded has been. Limited fields, limited play is not a valid reason for denial.
              They are side-stepping because the PGA & DP are not recognizing LIV tour/players. Again, I don't even know who awards the rankings.

              I'm pissed. I've broke 80 several times and still am not ranked anywhere. Shit. FML

                Stu1961 Limited field events just need to be approved by the governing bodies to garner points.

                That is how Tiger's 30 man invite only field got points.

                  There are 23 tours eligible for earning OWGR points. I’m sorry, but regardless of it being limited field and 54 hole events… the talent and competition in LIV is already greater than at least 21 of those tours (probably 22). The primary reason they are not being awarded points is because the seven members of the governing board are blackballing them.

                  PA-PLAYA Over the course of 72 holes, it just seems more reasonable to me that the more talented players finish in the money that week, versus 54 holes. It could also be argued that the cut line is also a form of a tournament, adding its own element of pressure.

                  Why not make them 90 holes then? The only reason 72 holes seems important is because that's the way it's always been. Just like whoever decided 18 holes was a "round"

                      PA-PLAYA the more talented players finish in the money that week,

                      Let's just say the players that played the course best for 4 days. I've seen some low tiered players grab some big cash/huge tournaments through the years, and never hear of them again. I've also seen TW miss several cuts. Along with Rory, JT, etc..

                        PA-PLAYA But it just seems a bit pathetic that they'd bellyache about not qualifying for majors

                        I think since the Majors are not under Monahan's thumb. that most of the bitching is about the strong arm tactics and bullying he is doing behind the scenes to get the majors outfits to tow the line. It's not his concern.
                        What Major executive committee wants a half assed field?
                        I guess we'll find out who has the balls to stand up for their event or not.

                          garyt1957 Hell, go back. 36 hole days for the final rounds.

                          Oh but wait....gotta have commercials, and that takes 4 days. And like baseball, everyone has to check their nuts every 2 minutes, before they hit.

                              Bravopilot

                              That appears to be a pic of Player at the Masters....I could be wrong.

                                Bravopilot I've said a few times before. He even has the Saudi logo on his golf bag. He's made/is making millions in Saudi Arabia. He designs/build golf courses there. He is a 'Golf Saudi' ambassador; for free? He'll do nothing that is free.
                                Facts.
                                https://destinationgolf.travel/gary-player-commits-to-inaugural-golf-saudi-summit/

                                Nicklaus is also making millions from that country, building golf courses.
                                A lot of people have their hands on Saudi money. Big names. Bigger than the golfers themselves, in some cases.

                                  I agree with Gary that 72 holes is arbitrary. Doesn't mean anything. A tournament could be six holes, or even just a closest to the hole tee shot on a par 3, provided everybody agreed ahead of time to what the tournament was going to be.

                                  I'm with him on the 18-hole round, too. I would be in favor of shortening a round to 14 holes, with a front 7 and a back 7.
                                  Just seems like a better choice. Leave the course before you are completely exhausted, and feel like you want to come back soon to play again.

                                  My wife's idea is three 6-hole tracks, so people can choose. People trying to get a bit of golf in after work could just play six. People who want to play more but don't want to spend all day could play 12. Hard-core golfers who want the whole 18 could go around all three tracks. I think it's kinda genius.

                                    rsvman2 isn't that why there is the option of only playing 9?? I for one play for my enjoyment, if that is 9 holes, 18, 27 or 36 holes. I can always go around 2x or more at the little course nearest to me. I think 9 is the minimum I will do. Not sure I want to play 6 or 12, sounds too short to me.