Just watched a Pat McAfee video about LIV. Quite funny. One thing he pointed out is the Saudis own 7.4 million shares of EA Sports - which publishes the official PGA Tour video games 😕. Only a couple percent, but wonder if it will cause the PGA Tour to move away from them?

    johnnydoom f it will cause the PGA Tour to move away from them?

    No chance, imo.
    The sports washing argument gets lamer by the minute.
    lol

    Stu1961 sell the Lynnfield house

    It was 25 years or so so now, but I worked in Lynnfield for a couple of years

      wishbone
      Wow! Small world. I hope you had the chance to play Sagamore Springs. The only course I’ve ever seen where both 9’s end with back-to-back par 3’s.😜.

      https://www.golfmagic.com/liv-golf/bubba-watson-expected-be-named-next-liv-golf-player-bedminster

      "Two-time Masters champion Bubba Watson is reportedly going to be announced as the next LIV Golf player during the Bedminster tournament."

      "Handicap 54 adds, however, that Watson will not play in a LIV Golf event in 2022 but that he will start his venture on the circuit in 2023 where he will also act as one of the team captains."

        Sneakylong Bubba is probably announcing since he's recovering from surgery this year and wasn't planning on playing for the remainder of 2022 anyway. Wonder if he got a bonus just to add his name to this year's list? Sounds like anyone else will probably wait until next year to sign or announce since LIV doesn't seem to plan on enlarging the field for any of this year's tournaments.

          johnnydoom

          "According to LIV Golf CEO Greg Norman, aside from a few more additions that will be announced after the PGA Tour season concludes, the LIV Golf roster will be more or less set in stone."

          Yeah, I think they have their roster. The bottom 4 get relegated and they can try and requalify it seems. So Bubba may be the last 'big' name.

          Interesting article by Dan Rapaport on the evolving business model for LIV. They have some execs on board that understand golf golf marketing. Players may have turned them down in the past are re-approaching LIV with some interest only to find out the initial offers are no longer on the table. New announcements coming at the end of the PGA season for next years schedule and new commitments.

          https://www.golfdigest.com/story/liv-golf-league-format-2023-refining-business-model-turning-away-top-50-players?utm_medium=email&utm_source=072722&utm_campaign=hitlist&utm_content=DM30039&uuid=1b53ddd4f5ac4c52aa6147dbb52ee004

            mikeintopeka interesting, thx for the link.

            I have little interest in team golf as noted in the article. RC, PC, and SC, sure, it's fun and there are two competing sides. 4, twelve man teams of pro golfers, not so much. That being said it will be interesting to see where this goes and how popular it becomes with more exposure, TV, personalities, etc. Will the fans take to it?

            I look forward to the majors, the real team events, and a few of the big name events (Players, Jacks event, Pebble, Dunhill, Aussie Open to name a few).

              ode - the first streaming event of LIV that I watched had the team format going on while there was a huge purse for the individual finishes too. It was interesting to me how the scoreboard on the side of the screen was switching back and forth between the two competitions.

              ode Yea, golf's just not a team game. The Ryder Cup has the nationalistic slant to it to get people to watch. Nobody would care if you took those same players and picked teams regardless of country and played. College golf works I guess (although I don't follow it at all) because you root for the school not the players.
              Maybe LIV should try team Britain, Team Australia, Team USA could have two or three entries. That might give it some pizazz.

              Par4QC

              Casey's comments are little naive imo. But he's certainly entitled to them. 🙄

              "Casey’s comments will clearly not chime well with Amnesty International, the world's leading human rights organisation, that points to the fact that as recently as March, 81 people were executed in Saudi Arabia in a single day. “Far from trying to ‘move on’, the Saudi authorities have attempted to sweep their crimes under the carpet, avoiding justice and accountability at every turn,” Amnesty said in a statement.

              “The regime’s human rights record is an abomination – from its murder of [journalist Jamal] Khashoggi to recent mass executions and the situation for LGBTI+ people, which continues to be dire. The LIV Golf Invitational Series is yet one more event in a series of sportswashing exercises that the Saudi authorities are using to clean its blood-soaked image.”

              "When pressed on gay rights, Casey replied: “It's not a subject I know enough about to speak about”. Yup. 😏

                ode Will the fans take to it?

                I think golf fans outside of the U.S. will take to it because most of the best golfers played in tournaments in the U.S..

                They're supposed to go around the world and play tournaments, being a world tour.
                In addition to North America they're expected to go to Latin America, Europe, Asia and Australia. Lots of traveling.🤔

                "Those 14 locations and dates remain undisclosed, but the league statement did emphasize the goal of expanding LIV Golf’s “global footprint.”

                Asia is a particular region of interest for the league where LIV and the Saudi Public Interest Fund reportedly invested $300 million into the Asian Tour.'

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                Sneakylong Love the way they tie mass executions and LGBTI+ together to imply that Saudis are executing people for sexual identity left and right.

                The mass executions are those deemed as terrorists. While I wouldn't doubt that the Saudis have a pretty loose definition of terrorist, I also don't doubt that many that have been executed were members of terrorist groups likely identified by international intelligence info supplied by the U.S.

                  johnnydoom

                  I'll just let Amnesty International's words speak for themselves. They're a lot closer to knowing what's going on than Paul Casey.