It’s eye-opening (or should be?) what a tiny bit of competition has already brought about. I can’t imagine the monkey wrench that would be thrown into the PGA’s workings (and their reaction/concessions) if there was REAL competition.

azgreg If this is true, I don't know what to think about PXG.

Gary Player is, from all I've seen, their main spokesperson. His bag has the Saudi logo on it, above the PXG branding!!

So, let's assume this is blown out of proportions, in order to sully the LIV Tour(again), and in reality, Reed is actually the one that made a change, and dropped PXG.

      Ok, so details are slowly being released, instead of coming right out and telling everything up front. I guess they just wanted to stir the pot for a few hours.

      There will be 5 PGA cards given out at Q-school, which has not been done since '11. Also, they are giving cards to the top 30(up from 25) from the Korn Ferry Tour. So, there's our 10.
      Like fucking pulling teeth from these bastages, to get all info.

      Eguller Call me Karnak on the semi merger of the tours.

      Good call. My post below was from two weeks ago. Strengthening their alliance was a smart move. The Saudi's buying the DP World Tour would be a disaster.

      "They did sign a strategic alliance last year with the PGA Tour, but they could possibly either fully merge or the PGA Tour buy the DP World Tour."

          Sneakylong Saudi's buying the DP World Tour would be a disaster.

          That's an understatement!

            I heard one idea that we could see down the road is the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour merge into some sort of Global Tour. With the top 50 players playing against each other for large purses.

            There’d be another Tour where you could play your way onto the top 50 Tour. Interesting idea. But again, the idea being that the top level players are competing against each other more often.

            Unlike LIV where it’s just ceremonial golf with popular ‘name’ golfers. In professional sports people want to see top competition with the best going against each other.

            Nobody wants to see someone shoot 11 over par bad golf and are simply there because of name recognition. This is where LIV will struggle in their current model. The competition and drama we’ve seen recently from the PGA Tour and the Majors have been phenomenal.

              Sneakylong I heard one idea that we could see down the road is the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour merge into some sort of Global Tour. With the top 50 players playing against each other for large purses.

              There’d be another Tour where you could play your way onto the top 50 Tour. Interesting idea.

              I like that idea.

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                  garyt1957 Sneakylong I heard one idea that we could see down the road is the PGA Tour and the DP World Tour merge into some sort of Global Tour. With the top 50 players playing against each other for large purses.

                  There’d be another Tour where you could play your way onto the top 50 Tour. Interesting idea.

                  I like that idea.

                  Ironic.....isn't that what GN was trying for way back when🤔?

                  I think it would be interesting to have a multi-tour event based on WR points and take X amount from each tour!

                      ode Ironic.....isn't that what GN was trying for way back when🤔?

                      I believe Norman's 'Stars' Tour idea was more of an invitational or popularity Tour like LIV. The idea I referenced came from former PGA Tour player Dennis Paulson on PGA Tour Radio. He just gave it an off the top of his head name (Global Tour).

                      This would be different in that you'd have to get into the top 50 Tour by world ranking points. And you could play your way on the Top 50 Tour. Who knows, but it sounded interesting.

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                        Sneakylong Any player that is either too old, or not good enough/offered enough(if any), will always say the same thing....LIV sucks. Keep the salt shakers handy, when reading these articles.

                            Par4QC Any player that is either too old, or not good enough/offered enough(if any), will always say the same thing....LIV sucks. Keep the salt shakers handy, when reading these articles.

                            Still entitled to his opinion and not just because I agree with him. 😎

                            Anyway, heard Jay Monahan say that they've increased their stake in the DP World Tour from 15% to 40%. And basically that's the best fit for right now, but that a full merger is possible down the road (paraphrasing).

                            They had to help take the DP World Tour off the market from the Saudi's. He didn't say that, I did. lol

                            Also, heard a good point. Is LIV's model really that viable? Where the current model is to play less golf. 😕 That's all you hear from the players, that they can play less and spend more time with their families. 😏

                            And I'll be watching the John Deere later today even though they don't have any top 50 players. 😉 At least it's real competition and no one is being paid an obscene amount from a controversial country to just show up. 🙄

                              mikeintopeka They claim it's all about Jay.

                              Possibly so, but, it has always been all about Sergio also.

                              His reasoning is obfuscation and rationalization IMO. Less travel ? Really ? Exciting ? For him ? 🙄

                                I'm watching it right now on Youtube and I think they are doing some things right. The PGA could learn a thing or two.
                                I love the shotgun start idea. There is constant action.
                                They have all the holes color coded green, yellow, or red for ease.
                                The rank all the players on driving, iron play, wedges, and putting.
                                It's pretty entertaining, to be honest.

                                  They also mentioned that Henri Duplessis had been toiling away on various tours for years and had lifetime earnings of about $700K.
                                  In the inaugural LIV event he finished second and made over two million dollars in three days. Hard to blame a guy for taking an opportunity like that.

                                  Interesting early polling on perceptions of the LIV v PGA controversy. The younger generation (to age 34) have a lot more interest in the LIV than the spin-doctors would have you believe.

                                  Another observation from the Harris Poll. The Harris Poll surveyed Americans to get a clearer picture of this fight for the future of golf. While a much larger proportion of respondents were familiar with the PGA Tour than with LIV (80% as opposed to 35%), both golf fans and the population as a whole are LIV-curious. Nearly three-quarters (74%) of golf fans and 55% of U.S. adults who both have heard of LIV Golf said that they plan to watch an LIV event this year. Two-thirds of LIV-aware golf fans report already having watched LIV Golf’s first event.

                                  I'll spend some time streaming the LIV this weekend because the LIV field is a LOT stronger than what the PGA is presenting. I didn't watch the Travelers last week either...The LPGA was riveting.

                                  For other poll results, hit the linky:

                                  https://www.si.com/golf/news/harris-poll-shows-pga-tour-vs-liv-shaping-up-to-be-a-generational-
                                  battle?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=morning-read-newsletter-&date=2022-06-30

                                  mikeintopeka

                                  Sergio’s and other LIV members saying they can spend more time with their families brings up what I mentioned before.

                                  Is LIV’s model of less golf viable? We know the Saudi’s have unlimited funds, but can they generate enough interest by playing less golf?

                                  And on YouTube no less.

                                    What do the Saudi sponsors get out of this venture? They didn't get obnoxiously wealthy on bad investments.