The Open 149th Royal St George's

Spuzz

hobbit We didn't consult anyone when we named the 'World Series'

maybe because it was the name of the company (Press?) that started it?

golf_bhoy

hobbit Don't think there's been a calling out, just a different perspective based on location. I'm just happy we can have that disagreement having missed it last year.

Stu1961

Interesting $$ stat: 40 years ago the winner at St George, Bill Rogers, made $25,000. This year the winner will pocket 1,935,000.

At first I thought it outrageous that the current purse would be 77.4 times larger ... but then I saw that just 32 years before that, in 1949, Bobby Locke, only made $300 for winning (when the average annual salary was about $1,900).

Bravopilot

Stu1961 Winning amount in 2021 exceeds $2M--$2,070,000 to be precise. Not sure how much this change with exchange rates changes

garyt1957

I'd bet you can find tape of Jack or Arnie calling it the British Open and no one took offense. It's just recently that there seems to be a fuss that it be called "The Open". Ask someone in June who's going to win the Open and the answer will be geared to the US Open. Hell, someone may start talking tennis. We all know it was the first.

colej

garyt1957

You’re right, our media (US) had called it British Open. It’s only been in the last 15 years (maybe?) it’s been called The Open over here.

rsvman2

garyt1957 You still haven't got it right. It's not 'The Open.' It's 'The Open Championship,' and the winner is known as 'the champion golfer of the year.'
I agree that if you just say 'The Open,' it could get confusing. But 'The Open Championship' is The Open Championship, and everybody knows exactly what you are talking about.

Sarnella

It is the f'ing British Open - end of discussion!!!

golf_bhoy

Sarnella I can't stop now, I've too much invested in the argument ... 😂

Google Open Championship and results are 95% that, Open Championship. Google British Open Championship and the only references you'll get is American media. Even the PGA Tour website calls it the Open Championship.

Yours was the first PGA Championship and is always just that, even here, the PGA, rarely (if ever) USPGA.

Other countries have their PGA Championships, for example there are English, Scottish and British PGA Championships (Bristish started in 1955) but they're called exactly that (although the current incarnation is the BMW PGA Championship for sponsorship reasons).

Par4QC

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/three-more-players-wd-open-bringing-total-17

Can't wait to see how many are DQ'd by the R&A, after a couple more days pass.
What happens to the 'close contacts'?? And with Zack, there had to be many.

Spuzz

Par4QC

I think David Duval is out too?

scotts33

golf_bhoy Google Open Championship and results are 95% that, Open Championship. Google British Open Championship and the only references you'll get is American media. Even the PGA Tour website calls it the Open Championship.

Pre-internet 1990 US fans always called it The British Open. That case has been made. Hence your internet search is quasi. We older Buzzer's are speaking before 1990. I'll give you today but not back way when....it was and still is in older golfers minds The British Open. That's my/our point.

Eguller

Bryson just called it the "British Open" in a TV Interview. Must be American old school..... 🙄

Par4QC

Eguller Prolly cost him a DQ now. 😄

golf_bhoy

Well whatever we call it won't make a difference to how it plays out, and I hope it's as entertaining as the rest of this year's Majors. Weather forecast is decent but RSG doesn't need a load of wind to "protect" scoring as much as some Open venues do (going by reviews I've read and preview shows on TV).

Par4QC

There really is no argument as to what it is called. It's merely a discussion about how Americans were brought up with the name, not knowing that is was NEVER The British Open. We know now, but old habits die hard sometimes. More than likely, it was the actual 1st Open of any, in golf, so they want to distinguish the fact from others.

How I will explain this to my hometown crowd is beyond me. Most in that little burg probably do not even know there is another golf tourney in the world. 🤣 Damn hillbillies. How'd they ever learn the game to begin with?

darpar

Good enough for Jack good enough for me! 🤣

azgreg

Stu1961

Bravopilot
I keep doing the math: if in 1949 the winner's prize was less than 1/6 of the average annual salary ... then I should be making over 12 million annually now! 🤑

Par4QC

Stu1961 Interesting reading on the history of the prize 'fund' of this tournament, or as they used to call it, contest. In 1871 there was no 'contest' held because there was no prize to be given to the winner..........a belt!

How many belts do you have? 🤣

Par4QC

rsvman2 But 'The Open Championship' is The Open Championship, and everybody knows exactly what you are talking about.

👍There it is!

This morning's paper, I had to laugh. The headline said "The Open". Then while reading the article, it says "British Open" a few times. 🤨

garyt1957

rsvman2 I really don't care what they call it, and agree that it's always been officially "The Open Championship", but it's only in the last, what 10 years, or so they've been insisting on "The Open". And that reeks of a bit of haughtiness to me. Jack and Arnie were as respectful of the game as you can be and yet they called it The British Open and no one complained. They certainly wouldn't have done that if it in any way was a slight at the tournament. I don't have the desire but if you searched enough I'd bet you can find a guy like Peter Allis or someone calling it the British.

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