Rickochet I liked them, to a point, and have had a few through the years. But, imo, with them being cheapasses, it has cost them a better following. They have been cheap by not getting away from those f'n closed faces. They could have sold more, and at a higher figure, imo. They were long/are long, but which direction will they shoot???? FW heads were also the same way, great stuff, but not very directional with those closedass faces.