Interesting Listen about Driver Face Flex

Typhoon · 2020-10-12T14:00:58+00:00

I thought this would be interesting for most of us on this forum. We’re older, slower swing speeds and seem to keep trying different drivers for more distan...

garyt1957

Typhoon There are no claims of how many yards.

Well at the 28:15 mark of the first video they show an ad that says gain 20-40 yards

garyt1957

Typhoon That was the whole Crux of the video. I know you said you’re skeptical which is fine. But the whole video is about why people with slower clubhead speed cannot optimize their ball speed with a conforming driver head.

I guess my point is, if I swing a certain speed , say 90mph using a conforming driver and hit it in the center then my ball speed IS maximized for my SS. Yes, I understand that at slower SS a conforming driver isn't flexible enough to get all the yards I could with a non conforming hi cor driver, But IF I want to stay conforming then a center hit with my SS on a conforming driver IS maximizing my ball speed for my SS, unless I want to cheat. I totally understand what he's saying, I guess I just got hung up on the "maximizing your ball speed for your SS" thing. It's not that you're not maximizing your ball speed, it's that there is something out there that can give you even more ball speed , if you don't mind it being non conforming. You could just play Bandit or MG Senior golf balls too.

Par4QC

garyt1957 MG Senior golf balls

Wrong. They gave me nothing, not even the same yardage. As with most everything 'Golf', YMMV.

garyt1957

Par4QC Wrong. They gave me nothing, not even the same yardage. As with most everything 'Golf', YMMV.

That's funny because somebody gave me a sleeve and I agree, not only not longer, but maybe shorter. But I assume they work for somebody.

Par4QC

sdandrea1 I guess you don't know those drivers are "greatly reduced/on sale now"??!! 😆

sdandrea1

Par4QC I guess you don't know those drivers are "greatly reduced/on sale now"??

Yes......marked down from $850 into the $700 range. I'll be in Florida next week and hoping the "free" one is still in the demo barrel. 😄

Typhoon

I missed the 20-40 yards part... seems high but who knows. The second video by Ali Taylor is believeable because he shows where his strikes were on the club face.

Maybe what got lost in all the back and forth was that yes, it is non conforming but what I found most interesting was face flex to ball speed. I think Lance said at 110mph you are getting what you should out of a legal driver. That was something I never knew and shocked me because so many people swing under 110.

DC300

Typhoon I think this pretty much explains why I quit searching for a driver, nothing has been much longer if at all, it’s just about sound/feel and forgiveness at this point. I’m way more concerned about it not ripping left than I am about it going 3 yards farther. Apparently, I’m in the “full returns” club, so it’s way less likely I get anything more unless I get a better fit.

garyt1957

sdandrea1 Yes......marked down from $850 into the $700 range. I'll be in Florida next week and hoping the "free" one is still in the demo barrel. 😄

$549 on the Krank website, I might get one in each loft

Par4QC

DC300 Apparently, I’m in the “full returns” club, so it’s way less likely I get anything more unless I get a better fit.

As long as the center face is hit consistently, everyone is in that club. Yesterday, I marked every ball with a red marker, huge dot, which I turned to be hit with the driver. I probably hit 16+ off the tees,(extras while waiting). I just looked and can only see about 4 red marks total, all center. So, if I want more yards, I'd need a higher COR, or a fitness club membership. 😄

If there was an absolute guarantee of 20-40 yds. more, I'd probably go for it. But at (discount code price) of $299, I'll pass. Until Spring anyway. 😆

sdandrea1

Par4QC I'll pass. Until Spring anyway

🤣

DC300

Par4QC it sounds like they are claiming you might be able to get more if you swing below 110, I’m not really sure I buy it. For me, it sounds like I would break it in a range session. I’m not looking to add to THAT trophy shelf, so I’ll be over here with my Ping until further notice.

garyt1957

Par4QC If there was an absolute guarantee of 20-40 yds. more, I'd probably go for it. But at (discount code price) of $299, I'll pass. Until Spring anyway. 😆

For a legit 20-40 yards ( conforming, I still play tournaments) I'd pay $700-$800 without blinking, especially if it was closer to the 40 yards.

Par4QC

sdandrea1 Ok, Ok, maybe Dec.. 😆

Par4QC

Just an FYI....that $399 price IS the discounted price with special code!! OMG. 😄

DC300

Par4QC C’mon, really?! Good Lawd

Par4QC

DC300 There are 2 of the heads; 1 for 80 and under(up to 200 yd. drives), and 1 for 80-105(200-260 yd. drives) So, they do set the limit.

Typhoon

DC300

For you and me, I would like to try it but I don’t want to run the risk of breaking it at that $$. Also, for us it’s like cheating... we can swing hard enough to make a driver head work the way it’s supposed to. I just think it would be mice for guys that can’t swing hard to be able to see what their swing spees really produces.... at a 1.50 smash factor.... not the 1.25-1.35 they get now because they don’t flex the face.

I hate that it’s called High Cor and people act like it’s cheating. Like I said for us, yes but for slower swing speeds they shouldn’t feel that way...it’s like playing someone and getting strokes. How about they call it a “handicap club”🤪

I guess that could bring up a whole new discussion/argument.... why does the playing field have to be level by giving strokes and catering to a worse golfer? Isn’t that like giving someone who can’t keep up distance wise a set of hi-cor clubs so they can keep up?

garyt1957

DC300 No he absolutely said a guy like you would break it, even with the Krank metals

colej

I’m all in to buy one IF.......they send out a demo to let me compare to my current driver. If it beats it I’ll gladly buy one for the $399.

Pretty darn happy with my current setup and if it were to beat it I’d be more than thrilled.

Par4QC

colej If it beats it I’ll gladly buy one for the $399.

Well, it's not like I've ever paid a lot for anything. I'd trade my (unused)Trans Rover cart for one. 😆

sdandrea1

Par4QC 1 for 80 and under

How far under?

garyt1957

Typhoon I guess that could bring up a whole new discussion/argument.... why does the playing field have to be level by giving strokes and catering to a worse golfer? Isn’t that like giving someone who can’t keep up distance wise a set of hi-cor clubs so they can keep up?

That is a whole new discussion. With handicaps there are net and gross tournaments so if you don't like giving strokes you can play gross only. I guess they could have tournaments where all equipment is legal, conforming or not. But there's not enough "magic" equipment out there to allow a 20 hdcp to keep up with a 5 hdcp. Leagues would be virtually non existent because 80% of the guys couldn't compete without handicaps.

DC300

Typhoon I would love to see equipment/rules to help the average guy enjoy golf more. I suck at the game, just hit it a long way, so I might benefit too lol. I think technology, especially for the senior crowd would be all the better, there’s no doubt, pride is what kills a lot of us in this game, I don’t care what a guy swinging at 90mph is getting out of his driver, if it’s a .95 COR, good for them! Id like to see more people enjoying the game, not struggling. I don’t know if the claims are true, but if they are, I hope they sell a shitload of them.

For me, I’d like to try Krank’s stuff, but the money vs gains just isn’t logically there.

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