And the thing is, even if everyone here was a left leaning liberal, he'd be arguing against that too. I'm not a left leaning liberal (well some of you would likely say I am if you knew me because I'm left of some of you). I'm not a right wing
guy either. I'm firmly independent and vote for members of both parties. Whichever candidate is closest to my thinking
on each item gets my vote. If I was in a group of left leaning people they'd likely say I was right wing. Defenestrator is FIRMLY off center in the head. Leave him to himself.