As for pace of play , I don't really understand the need tp play superfast, either. When I play with my wife we tend to find ourselves all alone on the course. My wife only plays anymore when we're on vacation and we tend to go in off seasons to the big crowds. Vegas, Florida, Utah,etc. So we take our time. We let one person hit and then drive to the next ball. We take time on the tee boxes to take in the views, etc. We'll still play in less than 4 hours but we could do it in 3 if we really wanted. There's something to be said for a leisurely round, also.