Bay Hill

Tinker

High rough, 15 mph wind and hard greens ate the field up. I watched one par 3 with the pin back right and it seamed every player hit a big draw and left 50 ft putts. Another hole had them trying to hit moon shots onto a green that just wouldn’t hold. Don’t these guys know how to hit a fade into a right side pin or a knock down that hops on the green and feeds to the pin? Shot making is lost forever.

DonM

Tinker Are you going to fade into that back right pin when it’s tucked behind water, and if you don’t fade, you’re longer into short side jail? Or if you are a bit short or over cut, you’re wet?

Versus you hit a ball that if it goes straight, you’re putting, and if it draws, you’re still putting or have a short game shot down the length of the green.

I think they were managing their misses more than what we see on typical setups.

Rickochet

Are there any pros that just try to hit a straight iron shot and not try to work it one way or another? It seems like too many shots get over or under cooked when they might have just hit it straight with more consistency. I agree that knock down shots and run ups seem to be a lost art. It seems like Trevino was an artist at every shot and was what made it fun to watch him.

sdandrea1

......and the USGA and R&A say the ball is going too far and courses would have to be lengthened. Bullshit. This shows how to keep the bombers in check.

Typhoon

sdandrea1

Funny you bring that up. Last week at the Bear Trap the scores were high. There was wind but as Nicklaus said during the broadcast, “ it’s a par 70”... scores are going to be close to par. It’s not a par 72.”

It makes me think, instead of all the talk about lengthening the courses, let’s throw in more tee boxes and shorten the course. But... shorten it so more of the par 4’s play as 270 yard par 3’s and shorten some of the par 5’s by 25 yards with a new tee box and make it a par 4.

Instead of par being 70 or 72, it’s 66. Will that make people happy? Now a winning score will be -1 instead of -14.

Rickochet

sdandrea1 ......and the USGA and R&A say the ball is going too far and courses would have to be lengthened.

Is it not true that most current pros are in better physical condition and better athletes than in years past? Perhaps USGA need to insist that today's pros knock off the conditioning training and eat more Goo Goo Clusters.

raggmann54

Bomb and gouge is what today's Pro seems to be good at, not shotmaking. Bay Hill showed that you don't have to lengthen the Course or "dumb down" the ball to control the game. Let's use some imagination in Course Design...

sdandrea1

raggmann54 Bomb and gouge is what today's Pro seems to be good at, not shotmaking. Bay Hill showed that you don't have to lengthen the Course or "dumb down" the ball to control the game. Let's use some imagination in Course Design...

Amen.

sdandrea1

Rickochet eat more Goo Goo Clusters.

Peanut M&Ms, too. Lots of beer as well.