Maltby KE4 Tour TC driver....
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pellmell I was gonna tell ya NOT to pay attention to the chart.....it's FUBAR (beyond FUBAR).....read the question/answer section (on the GW site) the below the specs....it's the only driver with an adapter that gets more closed with less loft and more open with more loft.....here are the various explanations given (
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"As I said before the chart is not listing the face angle. It is listing the direction the adaptor is rotated to create the listed loft angle. If we were listing face angles for this driver the loft would always be 10*."
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"What is listed here is what we have always referred to as Effective Loft. The lofts are listed with the face in a square position. The Face Angles listed here are the amount and direction the face had to be rotated in the different settings to get the clubface to a square position. The measurements listed are the actual measurements with the club mounted in a Golf Club Gauge."
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"I have passed along your suggestion for including the face angle changes in the chart. I will email you a chart where I have added the face angle changes. One thing to keep in mind when this driver is set into the Neutral setting which is 10* loft, 59* lie and 1* open face angle the 1* open face angle is built into the clubhead and not being created by the adaptor. The changes are referenced from that standard."
I still don't know what the actual lofts and f.a. are as they have not changed the chart yet. Bottom line is lower loft = the most open and highest loft = the most closed (relative to the most open/lowest loft setting). The last explanation (in this post) explains the loft and f.a. in the neutral setting as 10* and 1.0* open, what the rest of the chart means is a crap shoot when reading his explanations. I have posted a question asking him to email me the corrected chart/face angles! I will post when I get it.
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Nevermind....they posted the ? and Jim emailed me the chart, I'll post when I get some time later.
Jim emailed me the chart...I will post later when I get some time.
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ode I wonder if each head is a bit different with respect to face angle and loft any way. I had a Cally XR16 driver and even in the closed setting it always looked pretty open to me. The fitter I used checked the head and found it was 3* open in the square setting and so still 2* open in the closed setting. Loft was pretty close to the marked 10.5* IIRC.
KCee There is a HUGE difference between each different head. The tolerances that manufacturers will accept is what it all comes down to. There were a lot of people in the early 2000's losing their minds when they would get a TM head that was 4 or more degrees off from what it was stamped, almost ALWAYS higher in loft, which ironically as they tightened specs, they had a loft up campaign.. shocking I know.
The reason so many people will hit a club at demo days, kill it, order one and can't come close to duplicating it is the tolerance issue. Even at +-1 degree may mean the club you hit at demo days that said it was a 10, might have been an 11, with a 1* closed face angle and lets say for shits and gigs, it had a 246cpm shaft. You order that exact same combo you were htting, but without getting it precisely measured, you may get a 9 degree head that sits a 1 degree open and a shaft that cycles out a 252cpm and has a completely different flo orientation than what you hit. Oh and now we change the shaft orientation via an adapter and really screw up the shaft performance. So much fun.
Moral of the story, you find the one you like, act like its a woman, take that one home, her identical looking sister will never quite do it for you.
DC300 Coming from the manufacturing (and measurement) world, I know about tolerances, but I guess I'm surprised that heads, or most anything else, could still be so far off in some cases. It's 2020 and we have a LOT of technology that should ensure at least relatively tight tolerances.
This is at least partly why I always loved getting the handpicked Wishon heads. I had the fitter check a # of driver heads, including a few Wishons, and he noticed the Wishons were all very nearly square and 11*. I told him I had those handpicked that way and he was a bit surprised I got what I asked for lol.
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