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Moore was a no-brainer. I mean, I guess Davis could've done the unthinkable and picked someone else (like Bubba, or worse - Tiger) but I think Moore forced his hand with the way he played this week. Felt bad for Kevin Chappell, hard to fathom that he's yet to win a single tournament on tour, and he had a golden opportunity today. He's had a great season nonetheless.

So... 9 of the 12 players were in the field this week for the Tour Championship. Those 9 Ryder Cuppers collectively shot 1-under for the tournament. Take away Ryan Moore's 12-under 2nd place finish, and that suddenly doesn't make this team sound like "perhaps the best team ever assembled."

This is what happens however when you create a situation where you're basically requiring the players from the Ryder Cup team to commit to 4 tournaments in a 5-week stretch, which obviously the FedEx playoffs essentially do. And the kicker is that they're not getting any time to rest this week, as it's straight ahead to the Ryder Cup starting Friday.

Hopefully these guys can shake off the burnout between now and Friday, because the quality of golf overall really wasn't overly impressive, except for maybe one or two guys.

Dustin Johnson looked like a defeated golfer today, despite a $10 million payoff at stake. It had nothing to do with pressure, and everything to do with just being burned out.

    PA-PLAYA Moore was a no-brainer.

    Recently he is hot and injury free. Watson might have injury issue not known to public.

      Release

      Well... you know that Moore, being the quiet type, will fit into just about any locker room, fit into just about any team pairing. The same can't necessarily be said of Bubba. And not that Bubba should be considered a bad teammate... he just has his preferences and opinions that he feels the world should know about, whether it involves a tough course setup or a bit of rain that might fall while he's playing.

      Bubba's just wired differently. He is anything but vanilla when it comes to his style of golf, and finding the right guy to play with him for 3 days is probably a little trickier than we have the privilege to appreciate.

      He's either red-hot or ice-cold, and sometimes that's a tremendous gamble for a Ryder Cup captain.

      Maybe they picked Moore because everyone else on the team refuses to be paired w/Phil for alternate shot. After seeing where he was hitting it at Eastlake its no wonder he was criticizing the rough.

        mcavoy

        The only reason I'm personally not overly critical of Phil being on the team is because he earned it. Otherwise (imo) he wouldn't be playing. I like Phil, he's one of my favorites... but so many times in these events - we end up with guys who aren't playing particularly well going into the event, despite having played well enough over the two seasons prior to qualify. And I think that's part of the problem.

        But I also recognize that it's impossible to predict how well a player is going to perform in the matches. That's why I think the captain's picks are vital... he has the ability to look beyond the 2-year playing history and reward 4 players who have played very well as of late, the 4 players who've stood out over the past several months.

        There just all too often seems to be an "entitlement" approach with regard to who gets picked, and I'm almost at the point personally to where I'd simply rather the entire team be determined 1-12 based on points earned than continue watching our captains snub deserving players because of the good ol' boy preferences.

        At least then I'd have absolutely no reason to bitch about it anyway! lol

        mcavoy

        He'll be fine. He was trying out new drivers last week and this week there is no rough. His partner(s) should be able to find the balls with good lies......behind trees, in bushes............

        If you happened to watch Live From Ryder Cup on Golf Channel this evening, you saw quite the battle of egos.

        Brandel Chamblee on one side, stating that the primary reason the Americans have lost 5 of the last 6 events is because the best ranked players on the team during those years haven't shown leadership. He singled out Woods and Mickelson exclusively, citing their poor performances and underwhelming Ryder Cup records.

        David Duval on the other side, stating that he couldn't disagree more with that reasoning. Duval talked about how so much more has to be factored in to lay the blame on one or two players... how pairings often don't work out, how one player's struggles have every reason to affect his partner's performance, how easily momentum can change when an opponent makes an unlikely chip-in from off the green or a long putt to halve or win a hole, the fans in the gallery adding to the already-enormous pressure with a difficult shot they face. And Duval really shoved it in Brandel's face, saying "It's completely arrogant to single out one or two players for not winning, and in turn not give Europe their due credit for just ultimately playing a higher quality of golf."

        The back-and-forth continued, with Brandel citing stats and saying that Woods' and Mickelson's overall indifferent attitude toward Ryder Cup in general has led to apathy within the rest of the teams they've been on, and how the overall team performance ultimately reflects leadership. Then Duval was rather direct in his response, saying something to the effect of, "How can you say that? Look - I've been on a few of these teams over the years and I know from personal experience just how important each individual's performance is in the overall scheme of things, and I can tell you that no one from those teams went into a single one of those matches with an indifferent attitude, despite how well or how poorly another player on the team happened to be playing."

        Now Brandel is getting incredibly agitated, and he took Duval's remark as personal. "So you're saying that you had to have played on a Ryder Cup team to qualify an opinion?" Duval: "No, I'm not saying that whatsoever. I just think it is extremely arrogant to discount how well Europe has played in every one of these events, and lay the blame for losing on two players." Brandel denies that he implied that, and Duval then essentially tells him he can't have it both ways.

        Anyway... quite an entertaining back-and-forth tussle... we can only pray that the event itself is half as competitive! LOL

        I personally came away with the thought that Golf Channel should demote Chamblee to interview duties and completely take him off the front desk, and promote David Duval as the lead coanchor with Nobilo. Duval has the perspective of a successful playing career to lean on, has the ability to see and consider the entirety of certain issues, players and stories, and delivers his thoughts in a much more meaningful and pragmatic manner.

        Chamblee has outlived his usefulness there for going on a long while now. It is painfully obvious that he has this enormous chip on his shoulder because of his not-overly-impressive career, and has gradually gotten away from offering constructive and interesting viewpoints - the things that enabled me to enjoy his contributions there many years ago - and replaced them with incendiary remarks and constant criticisms of those with playing careers that he's obviously jealous of.

        I wish Duval had punched him in the mouth, or at the very least walked over and messed up his hair.

        Seriously, this was a great write up! I wonder how the golf media will spin this tomorrow and leading up to Friday's start? (I get very frequent emails from Golfweek.)

          mikeintopeka

          What really started all of this was the initial discussion about how the Americans were stealing a page from the Europeans with regard to the players demanding that they be more involved with the entire process, from picking a captain all the way down to having active input with team pairings and order-of-play in the matches themselves.

          Duval pointed out that Mickelson's public outspokenness in the media immediately following the loss 2 years ago, how the players had zero input under Watson's captaincy, was ultimately the catalyst for change that was needed. Brandel quickly chimed in that what Mickelson did was distasteful and that not everyone saw it as a positive thing, and that ultimately started the bickering.

          Duval has played at a high level well enough, long enough, to fairly represent (or side) with the players in situations like this. It's worth noting that he's probably still pretty good friends with most of the older guys on tour, like Woods, Mickelson, Furyk, etc. and he's certainly not going to throw them under a bus. And he really doesn't need to. I think Mickelson simply had the balls to say what every other player on that team had said in private or was thinking, and knew that (1) he wasn't going to fall on the grenade for Watson's inability to manage the team, and (2) he is probably as sick and tired of losing as anyone else, and felt that unless someone spoke up - nothing would change.

          Brandel clearly didn't see it that way, and in fact - singled Mickelson out for not being the leader he needed to be, and Duval just wasn't in the mood to hear that.

          Anyway... maybe there will be a small blurb about it somewhere. Then again - I think Golf Channel will downplay what transpired and I seriously doubt it'll make their own highlight material tomorrow.

          The look on Brandel's face was priceless.... you could read his mind as Duval was countering every point he made. "You sonofabitch. Why don't you go back to what you were doing before you were offered a job here, whatever that was, and stop trying to make me look like a complete ass."

          If there had been a cloud above his head captioning his thoughts - that's precisely what it would've said. LOL...

          I watched...it was def interesting....Duval at one point said and of course you are never wrong.....whoa....it was back and forth just as you pointed out and Frank just sat there in-between them silent as it unfolded.

          I think the point that tw and pm were poor leaders is overstated, at least as far as it's importance to the outcome....I think the usa has collectively had there heads in their asses for two decades on how they've approached the RC. Zinger shined a big light on that and showed what could be done and then boom Tom Watson went and buggered it right up again.....doesn't mean they would win everhtime with Zingers approach or lose Everytime with Watson's, but which would you rather have? PM drew a line in the sand, in a public way and it needed to be done. So BC did not like the way PM went about it and was critical of him.... but then throws him under the bus for two decades of being a poor leader.....lol, seems like a pretty good leader to me. I have no problem bagging on them for poor play as they both have losing records in the RC.....but poor leadership, imo just a cheap shot. TW is right there with the guys this week....bubba is right there with the guys....imo they are turning the corner on this thing.

          It will be interesting to see what kind of captain's tw and pm will be, but I think they will both do well, don't forget their amateur/collegiate backgrounds and how that propelled them to their pro careers. I could see them being captain and vice captain on several teams side by side.

            ode

            Great post. I completely concur.

            And I completely whiffed when I forgot to add that Duval told Brandel he was never wrong! That was probably the best line of the argument. LOL... I literally laughed out loud when he said that!

            I've often been critical of both Tiger and Phil with regard to their Ryder Cup performances, but I've never questioned their desire to win or their attitudes in general involving where they might rank the Ryder Cup in their overall list of career achievements. I think people who make those type comments are just looking for a negative excuse to bash... none of us truly know what these guys go through just to qualify for the team, or the honor that comes with just being considered good enough to represent their country in a historic contest like that. To think they don't care would be egregiously short sided.

            If you want the honest truth - I think pressure has everything to do with how they've performed. Not just pressure associated with being considered the best two players in the world or on this side of the pond, but also the pressure of knowing that we've lost this event so many times the past two decades and desperately wanting to change that, not to mention the ultimate pressure - not wanting to let your teammates down. I know that pressure at my own level... I know how hard it is to play focused, to play well, and how hard it is to do those two things while at the same time not wanting to let your teammate down playing alongside you. If, on some level, you're not thinking about that the least bit standing over a shot in a team match - you're not human! A player wants to give his partner every opportunity to hit a good shot or a good putt without having to factor in that his teammate might not be able to help him if he doesn't pull it off! I'm personally much more comfortable playing a singles match than a team match. And I'm sure a lot of golfers much better than me feel that way too. I never once feel like I have to play perfectly when it's just me. But you put someone with me, then suddenly that can change with the first miscue. The mindset goes from focusing on the target to focusing on what you want to avoid, and that hardly ever works out well.

            Anyway...

            What Zinger did, more than anything else, was he gave his team something they could believe in, some confidence that his psycho-scientific approach went well beyond establishing good chemistry between teammates. They believed in his approach, and that enabled them to go out and play with confidence, that they suddenly had an edge. The mind is a crazy thing... I can stand over a 10-footer to win the match and if I feel like I'm gonna drain it - I will drain it more times than not. But if I'm standing over a 3-footer to win the match and deep down I feel like I might miss this - I will probably miss it 99% of the time.

            I think we have a good team, but I also know that we've had the better team on paper in all 6 of these events the past 14 years, and we've come back with the cup only once. The one thing that Europe has going for them, like just about every other time we've played them, is they're underdogs. The pressure is once again on us, and for that very reason I think it would be very unwise to assume we're gonna come away with the win without a serious challenge. If that pressure affects guys like Phil and Tiger - you better believe it is being felt by everyone else.

            That's what makes Ryder Cup so thrilling, imo. One shot, one putt, one hole can change the entire competition.

            Looking forward to watching it.

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            Well... the Chamblee vs Duval feud certainly did make the rounds this morning. Video linked below.

            http://golfweek.com/quick-shots/#ryder-cup-video-brandel-chamblee-david-duval-heated-exchange-tv

            And it seems that Mickelson isn't finished picking at the scabs of some old wounds, essentially calling Hal Sutton's decision to pair him with Woods back in 2004 as disastrous. Most of us recall Hal's infamous reasoning behind it, stating, "Phil needed it, Tiger needed it, the whole world needed it."

            http://golfweek.com/2016/09/28/ryder-cup-phil-mickelson-hal-sutton-tiger-woods-2004-ryder-cup/

            My take: as destructively stubborn as Watson's judgement was two years ago in the 2014 Cup, his culpability still pales in comparison to that of Sutton's back in 2004. Despite Phil's insistence that the type of ball being played provided an unneeded dynamic that suddenly had to be accounted for (citing Tiger's higher-spinning preference over his own lower-spinning preference), however petty that excuse may or may not seem... everyone in the world who knew golf, who followed golf, who sensed a very real and heated rivalry between the two alpha males of the sport, knew that this dynamic duo pairing wasn't going to work out very well in the end. Everyone, of course, except Hal Sutton.

            Sutton claims that he basically quit golf for several years immediately following the fallout in the wake of the humiliating loss, saying that the critics and armchair quarterbacks who knew nothing about golf made his life miserable. With all due respect to Hal Sutton, who has been a great player and represented the game very well throughout his career, Mickelson's comments, however harsh they were yesterday, were no less spot on. Sutton's lack of judgement with pairing the two alpha males together basically sent the best two players on his team on a path to fail, and yet he didn't want to accept full ownership.

            People can say what they want about Mickelson, but this much is very clear: this week marks his 11th Ryder Cup appearance, no American player in the history of this event has played more, has seen more, has experienced more frustration. Given the level of the incompetencies that some of these captains have shown in some of the more humiliating losses - he wants things to change. He, probably more so than anyone else, wants to see the entire process become more of an advantage than a drawback.

            What we are witnessing with Mickelson suddenly becoming outspoken can be perceived in one of two ways: the critics will argue that he's simply providing excuses for his past performances and setting himself up to someday be the same, stubborn my-way-or-the-highway captain when it comes his time... or perhaps maybe he's truly tired of losing year after year and has decided to take ownership by putting his money where his mouth is.

            And if it is genuinely him taking ownership, then let it be known that he is the first American player in going on two decades now who has shown the desire to say what everyone else is thinking, yet no one else has the cojones to admit. I think he at least deserves that much credit, if nothing else.

              mcavoy

              It's not surprising to anyone that Sutton chose to take Mickelson's comments the way he did. I think where Phil is clearly being disingenuous is that equipment excuses aside (including the different ball) neither he nor Tiger were exactly best buds and neither wanted to share the exact same stage with the other as teammates. Sutton knew that better than anyone, he was still very much active on tour back in those days and he knew the sensitive nature of their situation. And yet he still felt qualified to play matchmaker...

              Phil, to either his credit or blame (whichever one prefers to look at it), didn't want to come right out and say that several years after his and Tiger's rivalry has pretty much ended. I think both Phil and Tiger have softened a bit, I think there's a significantly higher degree of respect that they have toward one another, and I think just by virtue of the fact that from 1997 through 2009 they were clearly the two greatest players in the world during that 12-year span - they can look back and realize and appreciate the impact that the one had on the other and the game in general. Now certainly their rivalry wasn't quite as pointed as the Palmer-Nicklaus rivalry was, because it was a completely different game being played back then, but nevertheless it was somewhat similar. As was the case with Arnie and Jack over the years, I think Phil and Tiger are on a similar course... they won't ever be as close as Arnie and Jack were, but I'm already sensing Phil being much more appreciative of what Tiger not only meant to the game, but how Tiger motivated Phil to become a much better player in his own right.

              Maybe 20 years from now both Phil and Tiger will have reached a point in their lives to concede, in a lighthearted and respectful way, that early on there wasn't any love lost between them, the same way after retiring competitively that Arnie and Jack talked about their rivalry back in their days. But to expect either of them to concede that point now, while they both still see themselves as competitors and not has-beens? I don't think either would want that. It's much too early for that level of olive-branch extending imo.

              That's just what I sense, from afar, with what limited scope I have. I think that has more to do with Phil clinging to the different-ball excuse than it does an unwillingness to accept his share of the blame because of how poorly he played. He doesn't want to come right out and say he and Tiger didn't want to play together, despite the fact that just about everyone following the game already knew that.

              It seems fairly obvious that Sutton, still to this day apparently, struggles to admit that his idea to pair Batman and Superman together just backfired right in his face. And what leads me to believe that is his comment about "controversy having a way of following Phil around." Twelve years removed from that horrendous decision, Hal Sutton still feels a need to defend himself.

              Maybe Sutton is the one who really needs to do some soul searching.

              Here's Hal basically confirming what I opined above. Oddly enough, and honestly, I had yet to see this interview before giving my thoughts in my prior post.

              I think Hal is a good guy, but he clearly still has his pride.

              One other thing I'll add... Hal simply wasn't a good selection as captain. Not just because he stupidly wanted to be Captain Matchmaker, but also because he was too thin-skinned. As bad as I thought Watson was as a captain two years ago, at least Watson stood there and faced the music. Hal states that he readily accepted the blame, and yet he left the game altogether for several years waiting for the criticisms and armchair quarterbacking to subside. To me, that's not taking ownership. That's called avoiding it.

              I still like that Phil is speaking up....he used the example of trying to get used to tw's ball in less then two days as taking away from his normal prep and hurt their chances....ultimately, he's saying not having a voice in that decision to be paired with tw and being made so late, was a captain issue, not a poor play issue...i dont think hal sutton will ever get it. Yep, it's hard to hear and he's taking it personally, but he shouldn't. And how misguided he is.....pairing tw and pm and winning would lead them to become friends.....lol....he's def a simpleton.

              Looks like phil apologized this morning for comments about hal.

              It was a good decision to apologize, if for no other reason than to hopefully put the issue to rest.

              There's no refuting that a captain can make decisions that don't help his team in a winning effort, but at the same time there's the other side of the coin too when players deserve their fair share of the blame... whether it's playing poorly, or doing something or say something that takes the focus off of event itself and becomes a distraction for the team. No matter how much I respect Phil for taking a stand and wanting to see the process change for the better, or for that matter - how poorly I thought Sutton's performance was as team captain back in '04 - two days prior to the start of the event isn't the time nor place to open that can of worms. It is fairly obvious that despite Phil's seemingly good intentions, he still carries a grudge when he gets overruled in certain situations. I guess I would too if I felt that those particular instances, in some way, influenced my performance and ultimately impacted my record in a negative light where it could be criticized so often by the critics who most always single out the stars on the team for not getting it done.

              But that was not needed yesterday. And I think he recognized the distraction he'd needlessly created.

              Then on the other side of the pond, a European player's brother creates a distraction himself on social media, casting American fans in such an overwhelmingly negative light. Although much of what was written was both humorous and true, and although Willet's brother claims the piece was written in satire - you're always gonna have those who either can't recognize and appreciate comical satire when they read it, or take what was said at face value and take offense.

              Two instances this week where two players felt obligated to apologize for something that was either said or written, one who instigated, the other completely blindsided. It is a shame that Danny Willet has had to watch what had every reason to be a celebratory week of his life suddenly become a hurdle that he now has to figure out a way to overcome. And I seriously hope that the American fans in attendance, who might've taken his brother's comments personally, avoid taking it out on him. If these fans don't - then they'll have proven every stereotype that was written accurate.

              The media today has never been a bigger whore for sensationalism... very few writers and reporters these days represent their profession admirably. I used to question why celebrities and sports stars seemed so eager to remain private and off the record, but I don't question them anymore.

              Long gone are the days of truly great reporting and writing. Armchair bloggers and tabloid turds have essentially taken over journalism.

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