They do make good stuff. I've played multiple sets of forged KZG irons, and was happy with them. Not the most forgiving models in the world, but a very classic forged design and feel. The Q was a great fairway wood, much better than the Q driver, which I thought was a little on the dead side. And the Gemini line of drivers was one of the all-time greats that no one ever talked about. It was as long as anything out there, and more forgiving than most everything in its time. If I could get a deal on a VC-460 lefty driver, I'd be very tempted to try another KZG driver. But because I'm pretty happy with my current F7+, it would take a steal of a deal to get me to change. But I would be tempted...