colej I’m not sure why don’t see Ricks actual point? He’s paid into social security his whole life. He’s not saying just because your Latino or Hispanic you can’t draw it.

Sneakywrong is obviously cherry picking and missed my other posting. I basically said anyone who contributes into the SS system can call it "theirs" regardless of race, color, creed etc.. Anyone who hasn't participated in it has no right to it. Congress doesn't care. They have their own system and dole out our SS money with little concern.

      Par4QC imo, she would also have an investigation going on about her. And, I think she probably would have had to step down. And, talk about facetious, migawd, I could not stand to even look at her face when she talked.

      Step down for what? Emails on her private server? Let's for the sake of argument switch Hillary's name with Trumps and assume every scandal associated with Trump was Hillary's. You right wing whack jobs hair would be on fire.

      The echo chamber at Faux News and right wing radio would be lit up like a Christmas tree. Face it. Just one, just one of these scandals by Trump would've brought down any other president.

      So, what is a rational thinking person to think. Why is this ignorant, racist, idiotic demagogue able to still have anywhere between 35-45 percent approval rating? Either 35-45 percent are willful ignorant racists themselves. Or they've been brainwashed by a cult like leader believing Thetan aliens are responsible.

      Oh, my bad. Sorry, I must've got my cults mixed up. Scientologists and Trumpists have a lot of similarities.

      Gullible idiocy...…………... 😉

          Rickochet Sneakywrong is obviously cherry picking and missed my other posting. I basically said anyone who contributes into the SS system can call it "theirs" regardless of race, color, creed etc.. Anyone who hasn't participated in it has no right to it. Congress doesn't care. They have their own system and dole out our SS money with little concern.

          No, no ,no no...…….. That is not what you said. This is what you said.

          Sneakylong I walked into the SS office and it was packed with young Hispanic people all with children. I was the only white dude there. I have been paying into the system since 1964. WTF are these people doing in "my" SS office?

          Can't you see what you said is the essence of racism? You, you chose race to make your point. You were the only white dude there with all these 'other' Hispanic people with children. In other words if they were all white like you you'd have no issue.

          If they were all white your post would've sounded something like this. 'I walked into my SS office and it was packed with young white people all with children. I 'wasn't' the only white dude there. I have been paying into the system since 1964. WTF are these 'white' people doing in "my" SS office?' Would've been an incoherent / non sensical statement.

          You're the one who elevated your race over others. You assumed they didn't belong there because of race. You looked down on them as being Hispanic and lesser than being white. We know this because you referenced race as to why they shouldn't be there.

          Do you even know what racism is? Your post couldn't have given a better real life example of what racism looks like. It's deep seated thru decades of embedded DNA. Not actual blood DNA, but worse. It's learned behavior.

          We can only hope one day the cycle will be broken. I'm hopeful once us old white dudes die off it will get better. But there's no guarantee. History shows humans for some reason need to feel superior to other (in their minds) lessor human beings.

          In other words racism (one race being superior to other races) may be part of being human. If that's the case it'll never change.

                Toulon

                Same applies in this thread. You understand the deeper truth, what we believe is an illusion, argue just to argue. Of course voter fraud is out there. It's not nearly as wide spread or one sided as proposed. Yes, our votes still count, I believe the fraud only may make a difference in very close races, which are then heavily scrutinized. Even in the case I posted, I believe the Rep won by enough votes to overcome the fraudulent ones, but now that candidate withdrew, so the fraud actually backfired. Something we do not have in common, I do not like to argue for argument's sake, but have at it.

                    Ack8236

                    I enjoy communicating. If you want to label this arguing that's your right. I perceive it as discussion/debate. Not fun to talk to someone exactly like me.

                    No question I understand that fraud and corruption is king in America. You deny this? I believe you do because it's hard living with that deeper truth that things you believe are a certain way really aren't. It doesn't bother me one bit.

                    "Of course voter fraud is out there"...but election fixing? No? It's not even possible in the mind of many. I tried illustrating a point but you're not interested in "arguing" it because you'll have to confront some beliefs. Watching what happened to Bernie Sanders was DISGUSTING. RIGGED. Your DNC rigs the primary and here you are trying to lecture me about how I'm "out there". You even brought it up and said that doesn't mean voter fraud, but of course won't go where you should go in your mind. If the DNC RIGGED A PRIMARY why wouldn't democrats and republicans rig an election? Can you answer that? You want to end the debate when you can no longer keep at bay what I'm driving at. You can hate me or dislike me or whatever. I'm asking you to talk and keep talking but you don't want to do that. You want to bunker down and put your fingers in your ears and call me things because of your own fear. That's fine. Just know that I know this is what it is.

                        Ack8236

                        Let's talk and see what it is then, if it isn't that.

                        Again, the DNC FIXED the primary. How is it an election is immune from attempts from both sides to be rigged? Are you saying neither side attempts to fix the election? Both sides just spend all those millions and just let whatever happens happen?

                          Sure, i'll talk, as soon as you can quote where I said elections are immune from being rigged.

                          Ack8236 So, you have nothing.

                          You say all elections are fixed, but seem to imply that only one side had fraudulent votes. Got it.

                          What did I have nothing regarding? Fraudulent elections.

                          I never implied that ONLY one side did anything. Obviously, if the republicans won what would be the implication of that?

                          BOTH sides are cheating like crazy.

                            Sneakylong Rickochet Sneakywrong is obviously cherry picking and missed my other posting. I basically said anyone who contributes into the SS system can call it "theirs" regardless of race, color, creed etc.. Anyone who hasn't participated in it has no right to it. Congress doesn't care. They have their own system and dole out our SS money with little concern.

                            No, no ,no no...…….. That is not what you said. This is what you said.

                            Again, you are cherry picking and did not read or mention my other posting. I am not going to continue to mud wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. I am finished with your nonsense. I think you have now surpassed Puttnfool as the biggest asshat on this forum.

                                Sneakylong I walked into the SS office and it was packed with young Hispanic people all with children. I was the only white dude there.

                                Sneakylong Can't you see what you said is the essence of racism?

                                    Sneakylong Step down for what? Emails on her private server?

                                    Now, you know she was no saint, much like everyone knew Trump was no saint. Some of her shit, that (surely)would have hit the fan, would have happened when she was 'in office' for the gvt.. And NO, I have no idea what that might be, but rest assured, it would have been found, dug up and splashed about by all news media. Much the same as the shit on Trump has been/is still being dug up; that fan has been blowing non-stop for over 2 yrs., and could conceivably go on for another 6.

                                    btw, I'm not 'right wing'. I never vote "party". Never will.

                                        Par4QC Now, you know she was no saint, much like everyone knew Trump was no saint. Some of her shit, that (surely)would have hit the fan, would have happened when she was 'in office' for the gvt.. And NO, I have no idea what that might be, but rest assured, it would have been found, dug up and splashed about by all news media. Much the same as the shit on Trump has been/is still being dug up; that fan has been blowing non-stop for over 2 yrs., and could conceivably go on for another 6.

                                        She and her husband have been investigated since they entered the national political scene some 25 years ago. I agree the Republicans would be investigating her if she had won.

                                        On the other hand Trump's dirty deeds are just coming to light and we'll see what becomes of the investigations into him.

                                            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/john-kelly-differs-trump-immigration-mum-security-clearances-n980326

                                            John Kelly's recent remarks on immigration differ from Trumps.

                                            On the administration’s handling of children at the southern border, he was critical, though he blamed then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions for catching the White House by surprise with the adoption of a “zero tolerance” policy.

                                            "Contrary to Trump’s comments that many immigrants coming to the U.S. border are criminals, Kelly added: “And by the way, they’re overwhelmingly not criminals. They’re people coming up here for economic purposes. I don’t blame them for that.”

                                            He didn’t defend Trump’s decision to declare a national emergency to get funding for a border wall and said: “We don’t need a wall from sea to shining sea.”

                                            Next time meagain starts one of his political troll threads maybe I'll save my time and just post this instead.